User:Bryan Hilderbrand/Meeting Notes (13JAN)
Meeting notes for MediaWiki "Products" Discussion (Wed Jan 13 16:30-17:30 UTC 2020)
- We have a start at this already
We something like an "App Store"
Sounds like you're saying this is a "Marketplace"
- We are currently doing that now at Wikibase Solutions, but not as a "package", just knowing what we have internally to fit the need
- Need a description of all the components
- Sounds like you're saying this is a "Marketplace"
- Project Canasta page
I think Misson/Vision/Goals is defined on the
What are the list of deliverables
- Infrastructure & 1st product = 1st deliverable
- What are the list of deliverables
- There are many levels to this, so what are all the components & how do they work together
- I have a File Management package
- A vote was taken on Etherpad to decide the first package, Document Management won, results below:
- Richard Heigl
- Document Management
- Technical documentation
- What are the features/requirements needed
- Details of both Ike's and Rich's Document Management system below
- A benefit would be the ability to edit in a browser for files (Word, etc.)
- Would be nice to have a parser function to "download" a file and strip the unique identifier I need to add to each file
How do we keep the "common" data from each product
- It seems like "people" are at the heart of most products
There's lots of ideas about perfect "feature sets" but we should deconstruct this into the lowest level:
- Sets of pages as a Package
- Packages into Modules
- Modules into Products
Gave an example of how User pages/Modules/Training Pages can give deeper insight into users
- Paper Ad wrote about An Architectural Model for Component-Basd Application Development
I'm slightly disappointed with the progress of these meetings
- Please put your infrastructure/ideas/methodology in the Infrastructure solution page for Project Canasta
Document Management Structure
General goal, store file based documents (Word, Excel, PDF, etc.)
Main idea is an alternative to Google Drive that is more useful in corporate environments as it adds powerful search and tagging.
The system shouldn't care where the document is physically stored, including that Google Docs can be linked to or embedded. In theory, documents can stay in Google Drive and the wiki can just be a wrapper that adds the tagging and other semantic attributes.
A simple example of this type of system was built and presented about by Ike. But the project is not open-source and the copyright is not owned by Ike.
- File name
- Implicit data (size, created by, creation date, last modified by, modification date)
Multiple signatures are key (engineers, QM, etc.). 2 Main Parts:
- Unique Identifiers for documents
- Authorizing signatures
Document Management Classes
- Yaron Koren: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_Canasta
- Bryan: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/projectcanasta
- Rich Evans: https://emw-meza.site/emwdev/Files
- Jeroen De Dauw: ill vote your preferred option for 1 bitcoin
- Bryan: ONE Bitcoin? I'll give you 1 satoshi
- Richard Heigl: :-)
- Ike Hecht: With apologies, I figured out why we never released the document management system we built. The client refused to release it as open-source. I can still post some of the features, etc. on the Etherpad.
- Yaron Koren: Yes, please do!
- Bryan: Ike, how does that work for your ability to give "help", "guidance", etc.
- Yaron Koren: Surely you can just list out the set of fields, etc., no? They can't sue you for that...
- Richard Heigl: Rich, can you organisze a presentation, what you already have and what you miss on basis of a productive system?
- Yaron Koren: Oh, I found it - slide 28.
- Ike Hecht: > how does that work for your ability to give "help", "guidance", etc. I think I'm safe :)
- Bryan: Ad, link to your paper?
- Cindy Cicalese: http://users.ece.utexas.edu/~perry/prof/wicsa1/final/goedvolk.pdf maybe?
- Bryan: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Component-based-Application-Development-Strack-Schijndel/c2b819ba864b1e83623cc666490c0b9106d08ee3
- Bryan: Ah, yup. Same thing. You beat me Cindy :)
- Cindy Cicalese: I actually got it from the same link you shared but clicked on the PDF ;-)
- Richard Heigl: I will have to leave in 5 minutes
- Bryan: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_Canasta/Infrastructure_solution