1 November 2019 MWstake Meeting

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Blank.png Date (UTC): 1 November 2019 15:30:00 - 1 November 2019 16:30:00
Blank.png URL: https://meet.google.com/mdd-ufhn-ksb
Blank.png Etherpad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2019-11

Person.png Attendees: Bryan Hildebrand, Cindy Cicalese, Dejan Savuljesku, Evita Hollis, Frank Taylor, Greg Rundlett, Lex Sulzer, Mark Hershberger, Markus Glaser, Peter Meyer, Rich Evans, Richard Heigl, Thomas O'Neill, Vincent Brooks

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Meeting agenda[edit]

  1. Wait for attendees & chat 5 min
  2. Wiki Quickie 15 min Rich E. - Process & Safety Management (PSM) with MW + SMW
    • Discussing an implementation of Hazard & Risk analysis for PSM to meet ISO & OSHA requirements using MediaWiki + Semantic MediaWiki
  3. Update on EMWCon 2020 10 min Rich E.
  4. OAuth 2.0 support for MediaWiki and updating the OAuth extension 10 min Dejan Savuljesku
    • Hallo Welt! is working with the Wikimedia Foundation to bring OAuth 2.0 support for MediaWiki and updating the OAuth extension
    • Brief Illustrated Guide on OAuth
  5. MediaWiki blog 5 min Richard Heigl
    • We need articles for the blog and other progress updates
  6. Wiki Watercooler remaining Open Mic
    • Present any current issues you are having or things you're working on, ask the group for help/recommendations/suggestions
    • Add any Wiki Watercooler items you may have to the Etherpad


  1. Process & Safety Management (PSM) with MW + SMW
    • Rich E. PSM is well defined for manufacturers & others that handle hazardous chemicals
    • Rich E. The goal is to prove to ISO & OSHA you can handle the chemicals safely. Shows counts of past injured from such chemicals. List of dangerous chemicals. A wiki can keep the info on the safety limits, dangers, equipment, chemicals, etc. Ideally workers participate actively in the documentation
    • Rich E. Showed presentation slides (Contact Rich E. for access)
    • Rich E. If you are a company that needs to adhere to PSM, a wiki can be very helpful (specifically to the 14 points shown on the slides)
    • Rich E. GraphViz and Mermaid are used for flow diagrams to provide revision history (and control with ApprovedRevs)
    • Rich E. PageForms with SMW are used to create forms and templates to gather hazards and show tools, information, operating procedures, training material (who attended a training is captured), and employee responsibilities
    • Rich E. Handles Management Of Chance (MOC) - a formal process involving formal notifications; auditors and regulators
    • Rich E. Compliance audits are required
    • Rich E. Capturing "Trade Secrets" are the only real challenge for MediaWiki
    • Rich E. The wiki is informal but linked to, and a source for, official formal processes
    • Rich Markus Is a "logged in user" sufficient proof of who made the change?
      • Rich E. NASA uses RedHat & SSO to prove who users are
      • Rich E. The wiki knows who the user is and every edit is known
      • Rich E. For NASA (Plum Brook Station) to even have a wiki and to handle "Sensitive but Unclassified Information", they need authentication and authorization
    • Rich E. Demo showing Meza running multiple wikis with different access levels. Most are restricted to some sub-audience
    • Rich E. Demo of "state" session pop-up and handling
    • Rich E. Demo of Facility Hazard Analysis (FHA)
      • Rich E. Took weeks and weeks to code
      • Rich E. Can view all systems
      • Rich E. "Systems" are updated by page owners, FHA aggregates all the systems into one page
    • Rich E. Heavy use of SMW to pull off this effort
    • Rich E. Uses MasonryMainPage (NASA extension)
    • ACTION ITEM Rich E. I have tons of tips and tricks for MasonryMainPage (Wiki Quickie next month?)
    • Cindy I have a Pull Request against Mermaid to handle large diagrams (as a preference) with a scrollbar
  2. OAuth 2.0 support for MediaWiki and updating the OAuth extension
    • Dejan Hallo Welt! is working with the Wikimedia Foundation to bring OAuth 2.0 support for MediaWiki and updating the OAuth extension
    • Dejan HalloWelt! also added on WebAuthn support (WebAuthn & OATHAuth)
  3. MediaWiki Blog
    • Richard H. Next steps, contact "you" (MWStake, Wikidata, etc.) to find authors/subjects
    • Richard H. Start getting 6-7 articles
    • Richard H. Launch is expected for January / February 2020.
    • Richard H. Service provider for Wordpress is contacted.
    • Richard H. The blog will have a section for classical blog posts and for short news and announcements (e.g. new releases of an extension)
    • Richard H. Content categories: we will see, but beyond announcements, there is place for field reports, strategies, new services, new and old extensions and features technological solutions and problems. All around the work with and around MediaWiki
    • Richard H. We need articles for the blog and other progress updates in advance to start the blog with some articles
    • Richard H. To be contacted: MWStakeholders attendees of conferences (e.g. companies and projects we know from SMWCon and EMWCon). Who else? Who from Wikidata? Who from Wikimedia?
  4. Update on EMWCon 2020
    • Rich E. Discussed information about next year's EMWCon Spring 2020 EMWCon including a new conference website (https://emw-meza.site/emwcon/index.php/Main_Page)
    • Rich E. Likely to be in Sandusky, Ohio at the Kalahari Resort Center (https://www.kalahariresorts.com/ohio/)
    • Cindy Offered to help Business/Financial work
    • Lex Mentioned the other site he created for SMWCon
      • Lex Originally it was a Bootstrap site, but not using MW wasn't well received so I switched to MW + SMW (.manage)
      • Lex Offered the .manage site for use planning EMWCon
      • Lex I also have a conference ontology using SMW that can be used
  5. Watercooler
    • Greg WikiConference North America is next week . Is there anything to coordinate, present, request? Greg is going; Peter is going; Some WMF staff (@tgr) are presenting
    • Greg I developed a new extension for displaying XML documents in your wiki pages: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:XSL

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