6 May 2016 MWstake Meeting
|Date (UTC):||6 May 2016 15:00:00 - 6 May 2016 16:00:00|
Matthew You Matthew Flaschen 2 participants Group chat To list all available commands enter "/?". Denny Vrandečić joined group chat. Erik Moeller joined group chat. Chris Koerner joined group chat. Markus Glaser 11:02 AM https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c88vhq37hg74htn7raj56oasj38 Frank Taylor joined group chat. Gregory Rundlett joined group chat. Frank Taylor 11:03 AM ??Good morning, everyone. Erik Moeller 11:03 AM Markus: I don't see the little "live" indicator I normally see for a Hangout on air, so if you want to broadcast, you may have to join the other one. What Matt said Gregory Rundlett 11:04 AM / Markus Glaser 11:04 AM sec Natalia Brown joined group chat. Toni Hermoso Pulido joined group chat. Markus Glaser 11:04 AM have mark in the other hangout Chris Koerner 11:05 AM Hi Toni! Toni Hermoso Pulido 11:05 AM Hello all! Gregory Rundlett 11:05 AM Hi all! brb Matthew Flaschen 11:06 AM The other one (https://plus.google.com/events/c88vhq37hg74htn7raj56oasj38) says Hangout On Air, but I don't know how to join it. Anyway, let's wait for now. Erik Moeller 11:08 AM Brion is trying to join, but it looks like the call is full :( Matthew Flaschen 11:08 AM :(, I thought they raised the limit. Frank Taylor left group chat. Erik Moeller 11:09 AM I think this is why WMF switched to Bluejeans :( Denny Vrandečić 11:09 AM I will do so too Chris Koerner left group chat. Denny Vrandečić left group chat. Brion Vibber joined group chat. Matthew Flaschen 11:09 AM It's supposedly 25 now, though: https://apps.google.com/products/hangouts/ Mark Hershberger joined group chat. Denny Vrandečić joined group chat. Erik Moeller 11:10 AM That's weird Matthew Flaschen 11:10 AM Mark, your audio is broken. Brion Vibber 11:11 AM Should I post this link in the event? Denny Vrandečić 11:11 AM mark say something now? Matthew Flaschen 11:12 AM It's full anyway. Next time we should use the Hangout on Air, and maybe create it as a WMF event to see if there is a higher limit. Erik Moeller 11:12 AM Better than the opposite problem - not enough participants :P Mark Hershberger 11:13 AM tried to do the HoA, Matt, but I screwed up Matthew Flaschen 11:13 AM You created one, I think: https://plus.google.com/events/c88vhq37hg74htn7raj56oasj38 But we're not in it, and I wasn't sure how to join. Maybe people have to be specifically invited. We need an A/V working group. Erik Moeller 11:14 AM Mark, it looks like we're picking up feedback from you -- would you mind muting when you're not talking? Brion Vibber 11:15 AM ckoerner asked to share this link in chat for background: http://mwstake.org/mwstake/wiki/MediaWiki_Foundation_Notes is anybody recording this version of the chat for later watchers? Markus Glaser 11:16 AM https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pn6oCK56LcTrwZwD-z-emK9RpjvkfudQ8FBsXBkzjJU/edit#heading=h.mqw18g9z7w6p MediaWiki Foundation Mission and Vision Statement Matthew Flaschen 11:17 AM Brion: I don't think the video is recorded since this is not a HoA. I can publish the chat if that's okay with people. Mark Hershberger 11:17 AM Matt++ Markus Glaser muted Mark Hershberger. Markus Glaser 11:21 AM https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ctc4Od4Yppm6vRbEB8J5vQ-9JYZmgcKtfCFtXN0gmDg/edit One possible roadmap Matthew Flaschen 11:26 AM Thanks, Brion. :) Erik Moeller 11:26 AM http://flossfoundations.org/ Mark Hershberger 11:27 AM consortium is what we were thinking about, I thought Natalia Brown 11:29 AM Thank you, Brion and Erik! :) MWF needs your support! :) Brion Vibber 11:29 AM ("apache"-like model) (but make sure individuals can still participate as well) Matthew Flaschen 11:29 AM It can be both consortium and 501(c)3. Apache is 501(c)3. Denny Vrandečić 11:30 AM +1 to individual participants as well Toni Hermoso Pulido 11:30 AM +1 Brion Vibber 11:30 AM re 501(c)3 one reason we looked at the other options was about "business income" if there's consulting/contracting for support etc. on the consortium model that might be pushed down a level though, so not an issue Denny Vrandečić 11:32 AM re: brion, in order to allow for biz income, the 501(c)3 could have a for-profit subsidiary (as does mozilla) Gregory Rundlett 11:33 AM I believe 501(c)3 is a formal tax category / organization structure while "consortium" is a loose description of how the organization is structured with regard to it's board, "members", volunteers, staff, etc. Brion Vibber 11:33 AM denny: yeah, that's a definite possibility if we find there's a need for a support/dev sub-organization Erik Moeller 11:35 AM What kinds of help are you looking for? Mark Hershberger 11:35 AM Can we look at the working groups and get poeple interet? Point to the conpherence room Matthew Flaschen 11:36 AM https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/Z245 Mark Hershberger 11:36 AM https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/Z245 Erik Moeller 11:36 AM We definitely need to solve the attendance limit for next time Mark Hershberger 11:37 AM We can use phabricator to schedule events more than G+ Brion Vibber 11:37 AM gregory: i think it was 501(c)6 we were looking at as an alternative http://stormyscorner.com/2008/08/501c-3-versus-6.html Matthew Flaschen 11:37 AM Groups: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/Z245#4731 Markus Glaser 11:37 AM communication to the public (marketing, PR, announcements, wiki/website...) communication with Wikimedia (strategy, budget, reports...) technical working group (development, extension store, software wishlist...) > projects communication with Stakeholders (wishlist, use cases...) organization of the organization (budget, reports, events, announcements...) Matthew Flaschen 11:38 AM I don't have a massive amount of time right now, but I can help with "communication to the public", including prepping for the Hangout on Air/IRC, and marketing it. I thought this is communicating about our group, not about MW. Erik Moeller 11:40 AM How have these meetings been organized so far? If it's always you two, it may be helpful to have a "designated owner" for each meeting, and to have that be a volunteer role anyone can sign up for. Matthew Flaschen 11:41 AM Do we have signups for these working groups yet? Mark Hershberger 11:42 AM Matt, we don't have anywhere for people to sign up :( Gregory Rundlett 11:42 AM Brion: thanks me 11:43 AM The Stakeholders Group (with me as a contact point) volunteered to work on the Improving Extension Management task (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88596), but we have not yet organized to start working on it. Toni Hermoso Pulido 11:43 AM as a starting point, we can use a simple wiki page Matthew Flaschen 11:43 AM Should we do the signups on MW.org, or mwstake.org? Markus Glaser 11:43 AM https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Stakeholders'_Group Mark Hershberger 11:45 AM another contribution we've made: Cindy has been working on authenticatoin update in core mw, IIRC Erik Moeller 11:45 AM Just as long as there's clear instructions posted somewhere :) me 11:45 AM There aren't - yet :-) We will add Denny Vrandečić 11:45 AM I have to leave for today, looking forward to this moving forward! Denny Vrandečić left group chat. Markus Glaser 11:46 AM https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1oEw07QpjQz_5ZliDeeV1TqEXqkCCMKmxWG-cfdR7ums/edit#slide=id.g1258f36664_0_93 A MediaWiki organisation? me 11:46 AM We should post those on mwstake.org as well as posting the draft vision/mission statement Matthew Flaschen 11:47 AM Cindy, I tried to create an account on mwstake.org via Google. Does the trigger the request? Erik Moeller 11:47 AM There are also a lot of individuals who have many years of experience with this -- Luis Villa, Simon Phipps, Danese Cooper, and others Gregory Rundlett 11:48 AM I assume some will be at Enterprise MediaWiki? in NYC I'll be there me 11:48 AM Matthew, no, I need to add you to the list of authorized users on the wiki. I'll just need your google email address. Erik Moeller 11:49 AM I can ping Luis and see if he has some cycles to help. He just had his first kid so it might be a few weeks :) Toni Hermoso Pulido 11:49 AM Cindy, did you add me in the past? Otherwise, I would ask you as well.. Matthew Flaschen 11:49 AM email@example.com me 11:49 AM Let me check, Toni Mark Hershberger 11:49 AM action item: sign up for working groups me 11:50 AM Matthew, try now. Toni, I don't see you listed. Toni Hermoso Pulido 11:50 AM Ok, firstname.lastname@example.org if Google Account Matthew Flaschen 11:50 AM Thanks, Cindy. Gregory Rundlett 11:51 AM Cindy: I'm email@example.com (Greg Rundlett aka freephile) Can you add me to mwstake.org? Erik Moeller 11:52 AM Cindy, would be great if you could add firstname.lastname@example.org as well :) Toni Hermoso Pulido 11:52 AM thanks Cindy Matthew Flaschen 11:52 AM Signup page: http://mwstake.org/mwstake/index.php?title=MediaWiki_Foundation_working_groups Mark Hershberger 11:52 AM yes HoA Matthew Flaschen 11:53 AM I'm about to create it. Erik Moeller 11:53 AM Thanks for pushing this forward! Gregory Rundlett 11:53 AM Thanks! Erik Moeller 11:53 AM Bye all! Erik Moeller left group chat. Brion Vibber left group chat. Mark Hershberger left group chat. Matthew Flaschen left group chat. me 11:53 AM Got Erik Natalia Brown left group chat. Toni Hermoso Pulido 11:53 AM Thanks! me 11:53 AM Got Toni Gregory Rundlett left group chat. Toni Hermoso Pulido 11:53 AM thanks cindy, I try now bye! Markus Glaser left group chat. Toni Hermoso Pulido left group chat. 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