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The [[Bylaws]] page is modified using the following:
# Making the subsections wiki headers, this allows specific sections (4.3.6, etc.)
#* This makes the TOC more complicated, but is fixed by <code><nowiki><div  class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki></code> and changes to [[MediaWiki:Common.css|Common.css]]
#* However, doing this also removes the visibility of section numbering, but is fixed by adding the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NumberedHeadings NumberedHeadings] extension and adding <code>_&#95;NUMBEREDHEADINGS__</code>
#* This makes the sections different font sizes, but is fixed by changes to [[MediaWiki:Common.css|Common.css]]
# Removing section edit links by using <code><nowiki>_&#95;NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki></code>
# Edits on February 14, 2019, by Frank Taylor
#* Inserted commas after "be advised of" in provisions 3.6.1 and 3.6.2.
#* Reversed order of terms "Special Meeting of Members" and "Annual Meeting of Members" in provision 4.6.2.2.
#* Inserted explanations in note 4, note 8, and note 14.
# Edits on February 24, 2019, by Frank Taylor
#* Changed “shall” to “will” in 3.7.2.1, 4.5.2.3.4, and 5.1.1.
#* Changed number of directors from eight to nine in 5.1.1.
#* Added note to 4.5.2.3.4.
# The fee schedule is based on the Linux Foundation (another 501c6) [https://www.linuxfoundation.org/bylaws/#schedulea Bylaws]


Example of a different layout.
== Toward Consensus ==
We need consensus from board members on the Bylaws.  This section is for noting that.


===Mark===
My vote: {{aye}} --<span style="color:#d30000">☠</span>[[mw:User:MarkAHershberger|User:MarkAHershberger]]<span style="color:#d30000">☢</span>([[User_talk:MarkAHershberger|talk]])<span style="color:#d30000">☣</span> 14:11, 23 April 2019 (EDT)


Bylaws of '''MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group''' (MWStake).
===James===
I’m good with the bylaws, except that I think we should have measurable actions we plan to take for section 2.3. Those measurements and action specifics don’t need to be in the bylaws, and probably shouldn’t be, but perhaps should be linked from it. Examples: 2.3.1-commit X patches to MW core, Y of which close out preexisting Phabricator tasks.


<div  class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div>
2.3.2 is what we were talking about with Ext:Duplicator. We need to formalize what we plan to do with it
:Right, putting the specific things we're working on in the Bylaws wouldn't be appropriate.  How about updating the bylaws to point to a specific way to track our current activities? --<span style="color:#d30000">☠</span>[[mw:User:MarkAHershberger|User:MarkAHershberger]]<span style="color:#d30000">☢</span>([[User_talk:MarkAHershberger|talk]])<span style="color:#d30000"></span> 14:13, 23 April 2019 (EDT)


==Name, Location, and Applicable Law==
===Bryan===
===The name of the corporation will be MediaWiki Stakeholders Incorporated  (hereinafter “the Corporation”).===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Bryandamon|Bryandamon]] ([[User talk:Bryandamon|talk]]) 22:25, 23 April 2019 (EDT)
===The principal location of the Corporation will be in the State of Pennsylvania  at an address to be established by a resolution of the Board of Directors OR at a specific street address.===
===The Corporation will be governed by the laws of the State of Pennsylvania  and the United States of America.===


===Cindy===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Cindy Cicalese|Cindy Cicalese]] ([[User talk:Cindy Cicalese|talk]]) 11:25, 24 April 2019 (EDT)


==Purpose  and Activities==
===Sabine===
===The purpose of the Corporation is to preserve and promote MediaWiki as open-source collaboration software for the benefit of all users.===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Sabine.melnicki|Sabine.melnicki]] ([[User talk:Sabine.melnicki|talk]]) 10:57, 25 April 2019 (EDT)
===The Corporation will engage in activities to support this purpose:===
 
# Maintenance of MediaWiki and its extensions;
===Markus===
# Cooperation and liaison with the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.;
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Markus Glaser|Markus Glaser]] ([[User talk:Markus Glaser|talk]]) 14:12, 26 April 2019 (EDT)
# Promotion of best practices and a healthy ecosystem for MediaWiki and its users;
 
# Advocacy for third-party users of MediaWiki; and
===Evita===
# Education for users of Mediawiki.
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Ehollis.wiki|Evita Hollis]] ([[User talk:Ehollis.wiki|talk]]) 14:27, 26 April 2019 (EDT)
===The Corporation does not contemplate pecuniary gain or profit, incidental or otherwise.===
 
===Lex===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Lex_Sulzer|Lex]] ([[User talk:Lex_Sulzer|talk]]) 10:21, 27 April 2019 (CEST)
 
== Elaboration of how relationship with WMF works ==
 
I'm curious how 2.3.4 Cooperate and liaison with the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. will work. Does the WMF have an established policy or working group on their side for this cooperation? I would recommend a periodic meeting to get things started.
 
Also, please chime in on [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T220212#5098975 T220212], a request to discuss the relationship between the foundation and 3rd party users at Tech Con 2019. I think we need to press this matter.
 
--[[User:Darenwelsh|Darenwelsh]] ([[User talk:Darenwelsh|talk]]) 12:09, 3 May 2019 (EDT)
: What restructuring are you referring to in your Phabricator comment? (''"Ideally we all come to some kind of agreement now instead of later in order to make better decisions early on in the restructuring."'') --[[User:Bryandamon|Bryandamon]] ([[User talk:Bryandamon|talk]])
 
:: I'm referring to the strategic goals and how lots of changes are likely coming out of those high level goals being interpreted down into specific code changes. --[[User:Darenwelsh|Darenwelsh]] ([[User talk:Darenwelsh|talk]]) 13:51, 7 May 2019 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 12:51, 7 May 2019

If you are not able to edit the page, you can leave comments at mw:Talk:MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group/Bylaws.

The Bylaws page is modified using the following:

  1. Making the subsections wiki headers, this allows specific sections (4.3.6, etc.)
    • This makes the TOC more complicated, but is fixed by <div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div> and changes to Common.css
    • However, doing this also removes the visibility of section numbering, but is fixed by adding the NumberedHeadings extension and adding __NUMBEREDHEADINGS__
    • This makes the sections different font sizes, but is fixed by changes to Common.css
  2. Removing section edit links by using __NOEDITSECTION__
  3. Edits on February 14, 2019, by Frank Taylor
    • Inserted commas after "be advised of" in provisions 3.6.1 and 3.6.2.
    • Reversed order of terms "Special Meeting of Members" and "Annual Meeting of Members" in provision 4.6.2.2.
    • Inserted explanations in note 4, note 8, and note 14.
  4. Edits on February 24, 2019, by Frank Taylor
    • Changed “shall” to “will” in 3.7.2.1, 4.5.2.3.4, and 5.1.1.
    • Changed number of directors from eight to nine in 5.1.1.
    • Added note to 4.5.2.3.4.
  5. The fee schedule is based on the Linux Foundation (another 501c6) Bylaws

Toward Consensus

We need consensus from board members on the Bylaws. This section is for noting that.

Mark

My vote: Green tickY --User:MarkAHershberger(talk) 14:11, 23 April 2019 (EDT)

James

I’m good with the bylaws, except that I think we should have measurable actions we plan to take for section 2.3. Those measurements and action specifics don’t need to be in the bylaws, and probably shouldn’t be, but perhaps should be linked from it. Examples: 2.3.1-commit X patches to MW core, Y of which close out preexisting Phabricator tasks.

2.3.2 is what we were talking about with Ext:Duplicator. We need to formalize what we plan to do with it

Right, putting the specific things we're working on in the Bylaws wouldn't be appropriate. How about updating the bylaws to point to a specific way to track our current activities? --User:MarkAHershberger(talk) 14:13, 23 April 2019 (EDT)

Bryan

My vote: Green tickY --User:Bryan Hilderbrand (talk) 22:25, 23 April 2019 (EDT)

Cindy

My vote: Green tickY --Cindy Cicalese (talk) 11:25, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

Sabine

My vote: Green tickY --Sabine.melnicki (talk) 10:57, 25 April 2019 (EDT)

Markus

My vote: Green tickY --Markus Glaser (talk) 14:12, 26 April 2019 (EDT)

Evita

My vote: Green tickY --Evita Hollis (talk) 14:27, 26 April 2019 (EDT)

Lex

My vote: Green tickY --Lex (talk) 10:21, 27 April 2019 (CEST)

Elaboration of how relationship with WMF works

I'm curious how 2.3.4 Cooperate and liaison with the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. will work. Does the WMF have an established policy or working group on their side for this cooperation? I would recommend a periodic meeting to get things started.

Also, please chime in on T220212, a request to discuss the relationship between the foundation and 3rd party users at Tech Con 2019. I think we need to press this matter.

--Darenwelsh (talk) 12:09, 3 May 2019 (EDT)

What restructuring are you referring to in your Phabricator comment? ("Ideally we all come to some kind of agreement now instead of later in order to make better decisions early on in the restructuring.") --User:Bryan Hilderbrand (talk)
I'm referring to the strategic goals and how lots of changes are likely coming out of those high level goals being interpreted down into specific code changes. --Darenwelsh (talk) 13:51, 7 May 2019 (EDT)