2 June 2023 MWstake Meeting

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Blank.png Date (UTC): 2 June 2023 15:30:00 - 2 June 2023 16:30:00
Blank.png URL: https://meet.google.com/mdd-ufhn-ksb
Blank.png Etherpad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-06

Person.png Attendees: Bryan Hildebrand, Cindy Cicalese, Gergő Tisza, Markus Glaser, Nick Gluzdov, Rich Evans, Thomas O'Neill

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Meeting agenda

  1. Wait for attendees & chat 5 min
  2. Wiki Quickie 5 min TBD
  3. MediaWiki News 20 min Mark
  4. TBD 20 min TBD
  5. Wiki Watercooler remaining Open Mic


The meeting voice transcription is available on the talk page.

  1. Tom PowerPedia



  1. Tom: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2023/06/01/national-donut-day-2023-deals/70268964007/
  2. Gergo: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-06
  3. Tom: https://portal.max.gov/portal/home
  4. Rich: The All Partners Access Network (APAN) is an unclassified information sharing and collaboration enterprise for the United States Department of Defense (DOD). We are exploring using it as a potential replacement to Max.gov. Ahead of our next meeting, would a few people be willing to create an account (https://community.apan.org/support/w/kb/19051/1-create-apan-account/) and then attempt to join https://community.apan.org/wg/enterprise-mediawiki-community-of-practice/? I would like to get peopl
  5. Rich: ^ feedback in the meeting to see if this will work as a viable alternative.
    • About APAN - APAN provides the DOD and mission partners community spaces and collaborative tools to leverage information to effectively plan, train and respond to meet their business requirements and mission objectives. APAN makes these tools available over the open internet so individuals and organizations who do not have access to traditional DOD systems and networks can participate in information sharing and collaborative events.
  6. Tom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia
  7. Bryan: Intellipedia. It's been written up. It's the Wikipedia on a classified network, with one very important difference: it's not anonymous. We want people to establish a reputation. If you're really good, we want people to know you're good. If you're making contributions, we want that known. If you're an idiot, we want that known too.
  8. Tom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia#Awards
  9. Cindy: Sean Dennehy talking about Intellipedia at EMWCon 2017 in Virginia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgCvpy2P_Fo&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2c9MIMVeuoI8Q7eFrnT9Mdi&index=5
  10. Cindy: And, of course, Tom talking about PowerPedia at the same conference:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfkfMHl4DQw&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2c9MIMVeuoI8Q7eFrnT9Mdi&index=9
  11. Rich: I took Yaron's WikiWorks "one good knife" analogy and generalized it for MW in general .. here it is: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Xjac81qdj0igo64t
  12. Tom: https://www.cisa.gov/zero-trust-maturity-model
  13. Bryan: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/M-22-09.pdf
  14. Tom: https://www.intelink.gov/
  15. Tom: Sorry to eat up so much meeting time
  16. Bryan: No, that was really helpful, thanks Tom.
    • I'd really like to know how we can help advocate for Powerpedia (using MW!).
  17. Tom: Thank you!
  18. Markus: Thanks Gergö
  19. Bryan: I think that was you Rich!
  20. Cindy: I still think we need the Acquia of MediaWiki: https://www.acquia.com/drupal/acquia-drupal
  21. Bryan: While MediaWiki is not a single software element solution that checks all the boxes of a security plan by itself (nothing is), it can, when used in conjunction with other administrative and technical elements of an overall system, definitely serve as the core element of a very secure knowledge infrastructure implementation. ~ Rich Evans (date unknown)
  22. Tom: Acquia does an excellent job of promoting Druapl. I would love to see the same for MediaWiki. # I feel like there are some efforts
  23. Rich: NIST FIPS-199 defines 3 dimensions of cybersecurity:
    1. Confidentiality
    2. Integrity
    3. Accessibility
  24. Rich: And each IT system is requires to rate each of these dimensions in one of 3 levels:
    1. LOW
    3. HIGH
  25. Tom: https://canasta.wiki/ or https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meza?
  26. Tom: Government wiki farm
    • Plus adding some good starter templates (infobox, navbox, etc.) with template data
  27. Tom: I would love to see NASA offer that as a service
    • The CSP should be FedRAMP compliant
  28. Tom: Rich - Could you share more details at an upcoming Federal meeting?
  29. Tom: https://usalearning.gov/ hosts NRC wiki
  30. Tom: Where is my ITIL manual when I need it
  31. Rich: NIST FIPS 200 defines 20 control groups
  32. Tom: https://wiki.en.it-processmaps.com/index.php/Availability_Management
  33. Rich: NIST SP-800-53 Rev 5
  34. Tom: We will let our ISSO team read Rev 5
  35. Nick: please respond to jeff's email. i am curious what the team thinks.

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