User:Bryan Hilderbrand/Meeting Notes (27JAN)

Attendees

• Ad Strack van Schijndel
• Bryan Hilderbrand
• Cindy Cicalese
• Gökhan Geyik
• James Montalvo
• Lex Sulzer
• Markus Glaser
• Rich Evans
• Richard Heigl
• Yaron Koren

Meeting notes for MediaWiki "Infrastructure" (Project Canasta) Discussion (Wed Jan 27 16:30-17:30 UTC 2020)

Notes

The meeting voice transcription is available on the talk page.

1. Rich Asked Yaron to describe what Canasta is.
   • Yaron Pointed to the Project Canasta page on MediaWiki.org and went over the four main components listed.
2. Rich Asked Yaron to describe the current needs.
   • Yaron We've heard from Lex, Cindy, Wikibase Solutions, and Bluespice, but haven't heard about Meza yet. I'd like to hear from James more about Meza.
3. James Provided links to Meza on MediaWiki and GitHub
   • James Meza is actively maintained
   • James We're currently on MW 1.31, but have a branch for 1.35
   • James Working on packages for maintenance
4. Markus Hallo Welt!/BlueSpice built a MW distribution based on Docker
   • Markus Just need to run Composer install to draw in all extensions, etc.
   • Markus We have many composer files for BlueSpice free, BlueSpice Pro, PDF feature, etc.
   • Markus We start with one composer file and add more for additional needs (extensions, etc.)
5. Gokhan I work on BlueSpice with Markus at Hallo Welt!
   • Gokhan Composer is handled by the Dev team
   • Gokhan It's stored on GitHub and we try to keep it as small as possible
   • Gokhan We use Continuous Integration testing
6. Markus Showed the Hallo Welt GiHub repo
   • Markus We have the same Docker environment for BlueSpice Free & Pro
   • Markus We have to think about how to make the system flexible
   • Markus The method is platform independent
7. Cindy How do you provide containers to people?
   • Cindy Do you give them the Docker image? Any need for orchestration?
8. Gokhan We are using Harbor as a private registry. Docker Hub. Building is the same
9. Lex My solution is not an alternative to Meza, it's a post process
   • Lex Something should create a MW root structure, my solution acts on this
   • Yaron Your solution seems to have 2 steps:
     1. Set up MW
     2. Package it
        • Lex Yes

Chat transcript

Content pulled from the chat record of the meeting.

• Markus https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_Canasta/Infrastructure_solution
• Bryan https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_Canasta/Infrastructure_solution
• Bryan (beat me)
• Markus hehe!
• Lex https://github.com/dataspects/mediawiki-canasta
• Bryan https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_Canasta
• Bryan Previous meeting notes:
  • https://mwstake.org/mwstake/wiki/User:Bryan_Hilderbrand#Project_Canasta
• Bryan https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meza
• Bryan https://github.com/enterprisemediawiki/meza/
• Rich fyi, I can't hear Gokhan well. did anybody else have trouble hearing him?
• Gokhan Oh let me switch to internal microphone.
• Bryan https://github.com/hallowelt/mediawiki
• Bryan Infrastructure is split into two? Is this right?
  1. Creating a wiki structure
  2. Packaging/Distributing the structure
• Bryan I think that's right.
• Rich Does anyone have any insights on using "redis" rather than "memcached" for fast caching of "key value" data pairs?
  • ref: https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Caching
• Cindy Unfortunately, I need to leave for another meeting. Great conversation as always. Looking forward to more in the future.
• Rich Bye Cindy. Thank you!
• Richard Me too. Have also to leave now. :-( CU soon! Thanks for the interesting discussion
• Rich Aye. ty!
• Markus I will have to leave in 5 minutes
• Gokhan Also I have to leave in 5 minutes. Thank you very much for this meeting.
• Markus See you all next time! Thanks for the great discussion
• Gokhan Have a nice day/evening thank you all.