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==Notes==
==Notes==
The meeting voice transcription is available on the [[Event_talk:{{PAGENAME}}|talk page]].
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}} '''PowerPedia'''
#* {{Agenda presenter|Rich}} drafted https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Application_Rationalizations


===Chat===
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2023/06/01/national-donut-day-2023-deals/70268964007/
# {{Agenda presenter|Gergo}}: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-06
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://portal.max.gov/portal/home
# https://www.apan.org/
# {{Agenda presenter|Rich}}: The All Partners Access Network (APAN) is an unclassified information sharing and collaboration enterprise for the United States Department of Defense (DOD).  We are exploring using it as a potential replacement to Max.gov.  Ahead of our next meeting, would a few people be willing to create an account (https://community.apan.org/support/w/kb/19051/1-create-apan-account/) and then attempt to join https://community.apan.org/wg/enterprise-mediawiki-community-of-practice/?  I would like to get peopl
# {{Agenda presenter|Rich}}: ^ feedback in the meeting to see if this will work as a viable alternative.
# About APAN - APAN provides the DOD and mission partners community spaces and collaborative tools to leverage information to effectively plan, train and respond to meet their business requirements and mission objectives. APAN makes these tools available over the open internet so individuals and organizations who do not have access to traditional DOD systems and networks can participate in information sharing and collaborative events.
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia
# {{Agenda presenter|Bryan}}: Intellipedia. It's been written up. It's the Wikipedia on a classified network, with one very important difference: it's not anonymous. We want p{{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2023/06/01/national-donut-day-2023-deals/70268964007/
# {{Agenda presenter|Gergo}}: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-06
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://portal.max.gov/portal/home
# https://www.apan.org/
# {{Agenda presenter|Rich}}: The All Partners Access Network (APAN) is an unclassified information sharing and collaboration enterprise for the United States Department of Defense (DOD).  We are exploring using it as a potential replacement to Max.gov.  Ahead of our next meeting, would a few people be willing to create an account (https://community.apan.org/support/w/kb/19051/1-create-apan-account/) and then attempt to join https://community.apan.org/wg/enterprise-mediawiki-community-of-practice/?  I would like to get peopl
# {{Agenda presenter|Rich}}: ^ feedback in the meeting to see if this will work as a viable alternative.
# About APAN - APAN provides the DOD and mission partners community spaces and collaborative tools to leverage information to effectively plan, train and respond to meet their business requirements and mission objectives. APAN makes these tools available over the open internet so individuals and organizations who do not have access to traditional DOD systems and networks can participate in information sharing and collaborative events.
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia
# {{Agenda presenter|Bryan}}: Intellipedia. It's been written up. It's the Wikipedia on a classified network, with one very important difference: it's not anonymous. We want people to establish a reputation. If you're really good, we want people to know you're good. If you're making contributions, we want that known. If you're an idiot, we want that known too
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia#Awards
# {{Agenda presenter|Cindy}}: Sean Dennehy talking about Intellipedia at EMWCon 2017 in Virginia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgCvpy2P_Fo&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2c9MIMVeuoI8Q7eFrnT9Mdi&index=5
# {{Agenda presenter|Cindy}}: And, of course, Tom talking about PowerPedia at the same conference:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfkfMHl4DQw&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2c9MIMVeuoI8Q7eFrnT9Mdi&index=9
# And, the full federal government panel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZQ6lWg5Hww&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2c9MIMVeuoI8Q7eFrnT9Mdi&index=10
# {{Agenda presenter|Rich}}: I took Yaron's WikiWorks "one good knife" analogy and generalized it for MW in general .. here it is: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Xjac81qdj0igo64t
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://www.cisa.gov/zero-trust-maturity-model
# {{Agenda presenter|Bryan}}: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/M-22-09.pdf
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://www.intelink.gov/
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: Sorry to eat up so much meeting time
# {{Agenda presenter|Bryan}}: No, that was really helpful, thanks Tom.
# I'd really like to know how we can help advocate for Powerpedia (using MW!).
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: Thank you!
# {{Agenda presenter|Markus}}: Thanks Gergö
# {{Agenda presenter|Bryan}}: I think that was you Rich!
# {{Agenda presenter|Cindy}}: I still think we need the Acquia of MediaWiki: https://www.acquia.com/drupal/acquia-drupal
# {{Agenda presenter|Bryan}}: While MediaWiki is not a single software element solution that checks all the boxes of a security plan by itself (nothing is), it can, when used in conjunction with other administrative and technical elements of an overall system, definitely serve as the core element of a very secure knowledge infrastructure implementation.
# ~ {{Agenda presenter|Rich}}: {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: Acquia does an excellent job of promoting Druapl.  I would love to see the same for MediaWiki.
# I feel like there are some efforts
# {{Agenda presenter|Rich}}: NIST FIPS-199 defines 3 dimensions of cybersecurity:
# 1. Confidentiality
# 2. Integrity
# 3. Accessibility
# and each IT system is requires to rate each of these dimensions in one of 3 levels:
# 1. LOW
# 2. MODERATE
# 3. HIGH
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://canasta.wiki/ or https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meza?
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: Government wiki farm
# Plus adding some good starter templates (infobox, navbox, etc.) with template data
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: I would love to see NASA offer that as a service
# The CSP should be FedRAMP compliant
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: Rich - Could you share more details at an upcoming Federal meeting?
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://usalearning.gov/ hosts NRC wiki
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: Where is my ITIL manual when I need it
# {{Agenda presenter|Rich}}: NIST FIPS 200 defines 20 control groups
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: https://wiki.en.it-processmaps.com/index.php/Availability_Management
# {{Agenda presenter|Rich}}: NIST SP-800-53 Rev 5
# {{Agenda presenter|Tom}}: We will let our ISSO team read Rev 5
# {{Agenda presenter|Nick}}: please respond to jeff's email. i am curious what the team thinks.


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Blank.png Date (UTC): 2 June 2023 15:30:00 - 2 June 2023 16:30:00
Blank.png URL: https://meet.google.com/mdd-ufhn-ksb
Blank.png Etherpad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-06

Person.png Attendees: Bryan Hildebrand, Cindy Cicalese, Gergő Tisza, Markus Glaser, Nick Gluzdov, Rich Evans, Thomas O'Neill

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Meeting agenda

  1. Wait for attendees & chat 5 min
  2. Wiki Quickie 5 min TBD
  3. MediaWiki News 20 min Mark
  4. TBD 20 min TBD
  5. Wiki Watercooler remaining Open Mic

Notes

The meeting voice transcription is available on the talk page.

  1. Tom PowerPedia

Chat

  1. Tom: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2023/06/01/national-donut-day-2023-deals/70268964007/
  2. Gergo: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-06
  3. Tom: https://portal.max.gov/portal/home
  4. https://www.apan.org/
  5. Rich: The All Partners Access Network (APAN) is an unclassified information sharing and collaboration enterprise for the United States Department of Defense (DOD). We are exploring using it as a potential replacement to Max.gov. Ahead of our next meeting, would a few people be willing to create an account (https://community.apan.org/support/w/kb/19051/1-create-apan-account/) and then attempt to join https://community.apan.org/wg/enterprise-mediawiki-community-of-practice/? I would like to get peopl
  6. Rich: ^ feedback in the meeting to see if this will work as a viable alternative.
  7. About APAN - APAN provides the DOD and mission partners community spaces and collaborative tools to leverage information to effectively plan, train and respond to meet their business requirements and mission objectives. APAN makes these tools available over the open internet so individuals and organizations who do not have access to traditional DOD systems and networks can participate in information sharing and collaborative events.
  8. Tom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia
  9. Bryan: Intellipedia. It's been written up. It's the Wikipedia on a classified network, with one very important difference: it's not anonymous. We want pTom: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2023/06/01/national-donut-day-2023-deals/70268964007/
  10. Gergo: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-06
  11. Tom: https://portal.max.gov/portal/home
  12. https://www.apan.org/
  13. Rich: The All Partners Access Network (APAN) is an unclassified information sharing and collaboration enterprise for the United States Department of Defense (DOD). We are exploring using it as a potential replacement to Max.gov. Ahead of our next meeting, would a few people be willing to create an account (https://community.apan.org/support/w/kb/19051/1-create-apan-account/) and then attempt to join https://community.apan.org/wg/enterprise-mediawiki-community-of-practice/? I would like to get peopl
  14. Rich: ^ feedback in the meeting to see if this will work as a viable alternative.
  15. About APAN - APAN provides the DOD and mission partners community spaces and collaborative tools to leverage information to effectively plan, train and respond to meet their business requirements and mission objectives. APAN makes these tools available over the open internet so individuals and organizations who do not have access to traditional DOD systems and networks can participate in information sharing and collaborative events.
  16. Tom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia
  17. Bryan: Intellipedia. It's been written up. It's the Wikipedia on a classified network, with one very important difference: it's not anonymous. We want people to establish a reputation. If you're really good, we want people to know you're good. If you're making contributions, we want that known. If you're an idiot, we want that known too
  18. Tom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia#Awards
  19. Cindy: Sean Dennehy talking about Intellipedia at EMWCon 2017 in Virginia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgCvpy2P_Fo&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2c9MIMVeuoI8Q7eFrnT9Mdi&index=5
  20. Cindy: And, of course, Tom talking about PowerPedia at the same conference:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfkfMHl4DQw&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2c9MIMVeuoI8Q7eFrnT9Mdi&index=9
  21. And, the full federal government panel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZQ6lWg5Hww&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2c9MIMVeuoI8Q7eFrnT9Mdi&index=10
  22. Rich: I took Yaron's WikiWorks "one good knife" analogy and generalized it for MW in general .. here it is: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Xjac81qdj0igo64t
  23. Tom: https://www.cisa.gov/zero-trust-maturity-model
  24. Bryan: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/M-22-09.pdf
  25. Tom: https://www.intelink.gov/
  26. Tom: Sorry to eat up so much meeting time
  27. Bryan: No, that was really helpful, thanks Tom.
  28. I'd really like to know how we can help advocate for Powerpedia (using MW!).
  29. Tom: Thank you!
  30. Markus: Thanks Gergö
  31. Bryan: I think that was you Rich!
  32. Cindy: I still think we need the Acquia of MediaWiki: https://www.acquia.com/drupal/acquia-drupal
  33. Bryan: While MediaWiki is not a single software element solution that checks all the boxes of a security plan by itself (nothing is), it can, when used in conjunction with other administrative and technical elements of an overall system, definitely serve as the core element of a very secure knowledge infrastructure implementation.
  34. ~ Rich: Tom: Acquia does an excellent job of promoting Druapl. I would love to see the same for MediaWiki.
  35. I feel like there are some efforts
  36. Rich: NIST FIPS-199 defines 3 dimensions of cybersecurity:
  37. 1. Confidentiality
  38. 2. Integrity
  39. 3. Accessibility
  40. and each IT system is requires to rate each of these dimensions in one of 3 levels:
  41. 1. LOW
  42. 2. MODERATE
  43. 3. HIGH
  44. Tom: https://canasta.wiki/ or https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meza?
  45. Tom: Government wiki farm
  46. Plus adding some good starter templates (infobox, navbox, etc.) with template data
  47. Tom: I would love to see NASA offer that as a service
  48. The CSP should be FedRAMP compliant
  49. Tom: Rich - Could you share more details at an upcoming Federal meeting?
  50. Tom: https://usalearning.gov/ hosts NRC wiki
  51. Tom: Where is my ITIL manual when I need it
  52. Rich: NIST FIPS 200 defines 20 control groups
  53. Tom: https://wiki.en.it-processmaps.com/index.php/Availability_Management
  54. Rich: NIST SP-800-53 Rev 5
  55. Tom: We will let our ISSO team read Rev 5
  56. Nick: please respond to jeff's email. i am curious what the team thinks.

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