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= Meeting Notes = | = Meeting Notes = | ||
== News and Updates == | == News and Updates == | ||
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Wishlist Developer Wishlist] | |||
* Technical Collaboration's (WMF) role in supproritng third-party users | * Technical Collaboration's (WMF) role in supproritng third-party users | ||
** Known contact points: Quim (via Chris) is the liaison for us | ** Known contact points: Quim (via Chris) is the liaison for us | ||
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** Very encouraging to hear support for MW as a product. | ** Very encouraging to hear support for MW as a product. | ||
* Will probably have WMF engineer(s) at the EMWCon | * Will probably have WMF engineer(s) at the EMWCon | ||
* | * [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-February/086343.html Cloud Team] | ||
** WMFLabs & Tools | ** WMFLabs & Tools | ||
** "Wikimedia cloud services" | ** "Wikimedia cloud services" | ||
** Brian Davis | ** Brian Davis is leading | ||
** Historical interest in 3rd party | ** Historical interest in 3rd party | ||
** Dockerize MW? | ** Dockerize MW? | ||
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** There are visibility issues with mwstake, we do things but we are not branding it as mwstake | ** There are visibility issues with mwstake, we do things but we are not branding it as mwstake | ||
== | == Conventions == | ||
=== EMWCon === | === [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/EMWCon_Spring_2017 EMWCon] === | ||
* #mwstake will host (''i.e.'' lend its name to, no money involved) an edit-a-thon the first evening of EMWCon in conjunction with WikiDC | |||
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** Evening of first day 5:30-9:30 | ** Evening of first day 5:30-9:30 | ||
** offsite from EMWCon venue | ** offsite from EMWCon venue | ||
** probably government transition oriented | ** probably government transition oriented | ||
** | ** first evening (Weds) editathon focused on gov links notably to whitehouse.gov if those links are still broken | ||
** Peter Meyer expects to get support from WikiDC for food for this first evening. | |||
** | |||
** Co-sponsoring with some org, e.g. MWstake, is important to making that happen | ** Co-sponsoring with some org, e.g. MWstake, is important to making that happen | ||
* Social event second evening | * Social event second evening | ||
* [https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Open_Semantic_Data_Association Open Semantic Data Associaton] - they support SMWCon, but my understanding from Yaron is that they are not involved in EMWCon | |||
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Open_Semantic_Data_Association - they support SMWCon, but my understanding from Yaron is that they are not involved in EMWCon | |||
* ACTION: all promote Call for Participation for EMWCon | * ACTION: all promote Call for Participation for EMWCon | ||
* ACTION: Mark talk to Lex about create camp | * ACTION: Mark talk to Lex about create camp | ||
=== | === [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017 Vienna Hackathon] === | ||
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017 | |||
* 6 hour track on Friday (May 19-21), i.e. 8 slots, 45 minutes each (possibly) | * 6 hour track on Friday (May 19-21), i.e. 8 slots, 45 minutes each (possibly) | ||
** Works for branding MWStake | ** Works for branding MWStake | ||
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* Draft programme should be ready by next Wednesday | * Draft programme should be ready by next Wednesday | ||
* Topic suggestions? | * Topic suggestions? | ||
** Use case +! | ** '''Use case''' +! | ||
** Tutorial? | ** Tutorial? | ||
** Panel discussion | ** Panel discussion | ||
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017/Register_and_Attend#Scholarships Apply for travel assistance] | |||
* ACTION: Markus etherpad with draft schedule | * ACTION: Markus etherpad with draft schedule | ||
* Possibly attending: Lex, Chris, Mark, Markus, Cindy, Peter | * Possibly attending: Lex, Chris, Mark, Markus, Cindy, Peter | ||
== Incorporation == | == Incorporation == | ||
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* Fundraising | * Fundraising | ||
** Need a clearly defined outcome | ** Need a clearly defined outcome | ||
**hosting of MWStake and Wikiapiary!? | ** hosting of MWStake and Wikiapiary!? | ||
***<shamless plug>Wikimedia Cloud Services</shameless plug> | *** <shamless plug>Wikimedia Cloud Services</shameless plug> | ||
* https://lwn.net/Articles/713073/ | * [https://lwn.net/Articles/713073/ FOSS Umbrella orgs in the EU] | ||
** Alternative structures, non US incorporation | ** Alternative structures, non US incorporation | ||
** Just go B-Corp? "public benefit corporation" | ** Just go B-Corp? "public benefit corporation" | ||
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** Possibly that even could include paid staff. | ** Possibly that even could include paid staff. | ||
* ACTION: Mark & Peter hash this out | * ACTION: Mark & Peter hash this out | ||
Revision as of 13:22, 11 February 2017
Date (UTC): | 10 February 2017 15:00:00 - 10 February 2017 15:00:00 |
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URL: | https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E334 |
Etherpad: | https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2017-02
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Attendees: | Chris Koerner, Cindy Cicalese, Justin Green, Lex Sulzer, Mark Hershberger, Markus Glaser, Peter Meyer, Thomas O'Neill |
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Meeting Notes
News and Updates
- Developer Wishlist
- Technical Collaboration's (WMF) role in supproritng third-party users
- Known contact points: Quim (via Chris) is the liaison for us
- CTO reportedly supports MediaWiki as a product
- New MediaWiki core team!?
- Dedicated people (Engineers, Product managers)
- ROADMAP!!!! (tbd)
- Very encouraging to hear support for MW as a product.
- Will probably have WMF engineer(s) at the EMWCon
- Cloud Team
- WMFLabs & Tools
- "Wikimedia cloud services"
- Brian Davis is leading
- Historical interest in 3rd party
- Dockerize MW?
- Some feedback I've heard from WMF folks on leadership in MWStake
- Criticism: MWStake started out really strong, but people are a bit unimpressed
- Waiting for getting something more concrete accomplished
- There are visibility issues with mwstake, we do things but we are not branding it as mwstake
Conventions
EMWCon
- #mwstake will host (i.e. lend its name to, no money involved) an edit-a-thon the first evening of EMWCon in conjunction with WikiDC
- Evening of first day 5:30-9:30
- offsite from EMWCon venue
- probably government transition oriented
- first evening (Weds) editathon focused on gov links notably to whitehouse.gov if those links are still broken
- Peter Meyer expects to get support from WikiDC for food for this first evening.
- Co-sponsoring with some org, e.g. MWstake, is important to making that happen
- Social event second evening
- Open Semantic Data Associaton - they support SMWCon, but my understanding from Yaron is that they are not involved in EMWCon
- ACTION: all promote Call for Participation for EMWCon
- ACTION: Mark talk to Lex about create camp
Vienna Hackathon
- 6 hour track on Friday (May 19-21), i.e. 8 slots, 45 minutes each (possibly)
- Works for branding MWStake
- Working title: "The potential of MediaWiki" -> find something better
- Draft programme should be ready by next Wednesday
- Topic suggestions?
- Use case +!
- Tutorial?
- Panel discussion
- Apply for travel assistance
- ACTION: Markus etherpad with draft schedule
- Possibly attending: Lex, Chris, Mark, Markus, Cindy, Peter
Incorporation
- Status and next steps
- Fundraising
- Need a clearly defined outcome
- hosting of MWStake and Wikiapiary!?
- <shamless plug>Wikimedia Cloud Services</shameless plug>
- FOSS Umbrella orgs in the EU
- Alternative structures, non US incorporation
- Just go B-Corp? "public benefit corporation"
- Plan was: US 501(c)(6), a professional organisation
- Need to align with WMF
- Apply for Grants
- Wikimedia DC could do a "fiscal sponsorship"
- Possibly that even could include paid staff.
- ACTION: Mark & Peter hash this out