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|mwstake-meeting=Yes
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|start-date=2017/02/10
|start-date=02/10/2017
|start-hour=15
|start-hour=15
|end-date=02/10/2017
|url=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E334
|url=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E334
|attendees=Thomas O'Neill, Justin Green, Lex Sulzer, Mark Hershberger, Chris Koerner, Markus Glaser, Cindy Cicalese, Peter Meyer
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= Meeting Notes =
= Meeting Notes =
== Attendees  ==
Thomas O'Neill
Justin Green
Lex Sulzer
Mark A. Hershberger
Chris Koerner
Markus Glaser
Cindy Cicalese
Peter Meyer


== News and Updates ==
== News and Updates ==
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Wishlist Developer Wishlist]
* Technical Collaboration's (WMF) role in supproritng third-party users
* Technical Collaboration's (WMF) role in supproritng third-party users
** Known contact points: Quim (via Chris) is the liaison for us
** Known contact points: Quim (via Chris) is the liaison for us
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** Very encouraging to hear support for MW as a product.
** Very encouraging to hear support for MW as a product.
* Will probably have WMF engineer(s) at the EMWCon
* Will probably have WMF engineer(s) at the EMWCon
* Cloud Team
* [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-February/086343.html Cloud Team]
** https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-February/086343.html
** WMFLabs & Tools
** WMFLabs & Tools
** "Wikimedia cloud services"
** "Wikimedia cloud services"
** Brian Davis
** Brian Davis is leading
** Historical interest in 3rd party
** Historical interest in 3rd party
** Dockerize MW?
** Dockerize MW?
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** Criticism: MWStake started out really strong, but people are a bit unimpressed
** Criticism: MWStake started out really strong, but people are a bit unimpressed
** Waiting for getting something more concrete accomplished
** Waiting for getting something more concrete accomplished
** There are visibility issues with mwstake, we do things but we are not branding it as mwstake
** There are visibility issues with mwstake, we do things (''e.g.'' extensions, EMWCon) but we are not branding it as mwstake


== Cons ==
== Conventions ==


=== EMWCon ===
=== [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/EMWCon_Spring_2017 EMWCon] ===


    https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/EMWCon_Spring_2017
* #mwstake will host (''i.e.'' lend its name to, no money involved) an edit-a-thon the first evening of EMWCon in conjunction with WikiDC
 
* Is #mwstake willing to host (i.e. lend its name to, no money involved) an edit-a-thon the first evening of EMWCon in conjunction with WikiDC -
** yes
** Evening of first day 5:30-9:30
** Evening of first day 5:30-9:30
** offsite from EMWCon venue
** offsite from EMWCon venue
** probably government transition oriented
** probably government transition oriented
** (e.g. fixing broken links in Wikipedia to White House web pages)?
** first evening (Weds) editathon focused on gov links notably to whitehouse.gov if those links are still broken
** yes.  first evening (Weds) editathon focused on gov links notably to whitehouse.gov if those links are still broken
** Peter Meyer expects to get support from WikiDC for food for this first evening.
** I expect to get support from WikiDC for food for this first evening.
** Co-sponsoring with some org, e.g. MWstake, is important to making that happen
** Co-sponsoring with some org, e.g. MWstake, is important to making that happen
* Social event second evening
* Social event second evening
 
* [https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Open_Semantic_Data_Association Open Semantic Data Associaton] - they support SMWCon, but my understanding from Yaron is that they are not involved in EMWCon
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Open_Semantic_Data_Association - they support SMWCon, but my understanding from Yaron is that they are not involved in EMWCon
 
* ACTION: all promote Call for Participation for EMWCon
* ACTION: all promote Call for Participation for EMWCon
* ACTION: Mark talk to Lex about create camp
* ACTION: Mark talk to Lex about create camp


=== Vienna Hackathon ===
=== [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017 Vienna Hackathon] ===
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017
* 6 hour track on Friday (May 19-21), i.e. 8 slots, 45 minutes each (possibly)
* 6 hour track on Friday (May 19-21), i.e. 8 slots, 45 minutes each (possibly)
** Works for branding MWStake
** Works for branding MWStake
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* Draft programme should be ready by next Wednesday
* Draft programme should be ready by next Wednesday
* Topic suggestions?
* Topic suggestions?
** Use case +!
** '''Use case''' +!
** Tutorial?
** Tutorial?
** Panel discussion
** Panel discussion
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017/Register_and_Attend#Scholarships Apply for travel assistance]
* ACTION: Markus etherpad with draft schedule
* ACTION: Markus etherpad with draft schedule
* Possibly attending: Lex, Chris, Mark, Markus, Cindy, Peter
* Possibly attending: Lex, Chris, Mark, Markus, Cindy, Peter
    https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017/Register_and_Attend#Scholarships


== Incorporation ==
== Incorporation ==
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* Fundraising
* Fundraising
** Need a clearly defined outcome
** Need a clearly defined outcome
**hosting of MWStake and Wikiapiary!?
** hosting of MWStake and Wikiapiary!?
***<shamless plug>Wikimedia Cloud Services</shameless plug>
*** <shamless plug>Wikimedia Cloud Services</shameless plug>
* https://lwn.net/Articles/713073/ -- FOSS Umbrella orgs in the EU
* [https://lwn.net/Articles/713073/ FOSS Umbrella orgs in the EU]
** Alternative structures, non US incorporation
** Alternative structures, non US incorporation
** Just go B-Corp?  "public benefit corporation"
** Just go B-Corp?  "public benefit corporation"
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** Possibly that even could include paid staff.
** Possibly that even could include paid staff.
* ACTION: Mark & Peter hash this out
* ACTION: Mark & Peter hash this out
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Wishlist

Latest revision as of 13:09, 17 May 2020

Blank.png Date (UTC): 10 February 2017 15:00:00 - 10 February 2017 15:00:00
Blank.png URL: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E334
Blank.png Etherpad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2017-02

Person.png Attendees: Chris Koerner, Cindy Cicalese, Justin Green, Lex Sulzer, Mark Hershberger, Markus Glaser, Peter Meyer, Thomas O'Neill

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Meeting Notes

News and Updates

  • Developer Wishlist
  • Technical Collaboration's (WMF) role in supproritng third-party users
    • Known contact points: Quim (via Chris) is the liaison for us
    • CTO reportedly supports MediaWiki as a product
  • New MediaWiki core team!?
    • Dedicated people (Engineers, Product managers)
    • ROADMAP!!!! (tbd)
    • Very encouraging to hear support for MW as a product.
  • Will probably have WMF engineer(s) at the EMWCon
  • Cloud Team
    • WMFLabs & Tools
    • "Wikimedia cloud services"
    • Brian Davis is leading
    • Historical interest in 3rd party
    • Dockerize MW?
  • Some feedback I've heard from WMF folks on leadership in MWStake
    • Criticism: MWStake started out really strong, but people are a bit unimpressed
    • Waiting for getting something more concrete accomplished
    • There are visibility issues with mwstake, we do things (e.g. extensions, EMWCon) but we are not branding it as mwstake

Conventions

EMWCon

  • #mwstake will host (i.e. lend its name to, no money involved) an edit-a-thon the first evening of EMWCon in conjunction with WikiDC
    • Evening of first day 5:30-9:30
    • offsite from EMWCon venue
    • probably government transition oriented
    • first evening (Weds) editathon focused on gov links notably to whitehouse.gov if those links are still broken
    • Peter Meyer expects to get support from WikiDC for food for this first evening.
    • Co-sponsoring with some org, e.g. MWstake, is important to making that happen
  • Social event second evening
  • Open Semantic Data Associaton - they support SMWCon, but my understanding from Yaron is that they are not involved in EMWCon
  • ACTION: all promote Call for Participation for EMWCon
  • ACTION: Mark talk to Lex about create camp

Vienna Hackathon

  • 6 hour track on Friday (May 19-21), i.e. 8 slots, 45 minutes each (possibly)
    • Works for branding MWStake
  • Working title: "The potential of MediaWiki" -> find something better
  • Draft programme should be ready by next Wednesday
  • Topic suggestions?
    • Use case +!
    • Tutorial?
    • Panel discussion
  • Apply for travel assistance
  • ACTION: Markus etherpad with draft schedule
  • Possibly attending: Lex, Chris, Mark, Markus, Cindy, Peter

Incorporation

  • Status and next steps
  • Fundraising
    • Need a clearly defined outcome
    • hosting of MWStake and Wikiapiary!?
      • <shamless plug>Wikimedia Cloud Services</shameless plug>
  • FOSS Umbrella orgs in the EU
    • Alternative structures, non US incorporation
    • Just go B-Corp? "public benefit corporation"
  • Plan was: US 501(c)(6), a professional organisation
  • Need to align with WMF
  • Apply for Grants
  • Wikimedia DC could do a "fiscal sponsorship"
    • Possibly that even could include paid staff.
  • ACTION: Mark & Peter hash this out
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