2 June 2023 MWstake Meeting

Date (UTC):	2 June 2023 15:30:00 - 2 June 2023 16:30:00
URL:	https://meet.google.com/mdd-ufhn-ksb
Etherpad:	https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-06
Attendees:	Bryan Hildebrand, Cindy Cicalese, Gergő Tisza, Markus Glaser, Nick Gluzdov, Rich Evans, Thomas O'Neill

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Meeting agenda

1. Wait for attendees & chat 5 min
2. Wiki Quickie 5 min TBD
3. MediaWiki News 20 min Mark
4. TBD 20 min TBD
5. Wiki Watercooler remaining Open Mic

Notes

The meeting voice transcription is available on the talk page.

1. Tom PowerPedia
   • Rich drafted https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Application_Rationalizations

Chat

1. Tom: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2023/06/01/national-donut-day-2023-deals/70268964007/
2. Gergo: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-06
3. Tom: https://portal.max.gov/portal/home
4. https://www.apan.org/
5. Rich: The All Partners Access Network (APAN) is an unclassified information sharing and collaboration enterprise for the United States Department of Defense (DOD). We are exploring using it as a potential replacement to Max.gov. Ahead of our next meeting, would a few people be willing to create an account (https://community.apan.org/support/w/kb/19051/1-create-apan-account/) and then attempt to join https://community.apan.org/wg/enterprise-mediawiki-community-of-practice/? I would like to get peopl
6. Rich: ^ feedback in the meeting to see if this will work as a viable alternative.
7. About APAN - APAN provides the DOD and mission partners community spaces and collaborative tools to leverage information to effectively plan, train and respond to meet their business requirements and mission objectives. APAN makes these tools available over the open internet so individuals and organizations who do not have access to traditional DOD systems and networks can participate in information sharing and collaborative events.
8. Tom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia
9. Bryan: Intellipedia. It's been written up. It's the Wikipedia on a classified network, with one very important difference: it's not anonymous. We want pTom: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2023/06/01/national-donut-day-2023-deals/70268964007/
10. Gergo: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-06
11. Tom: https://portal.max.gov/portal/home
12. https://www.apan.org/
13. Rich: The All Partners Access Network (APAN) is an unclassified information sharing and collaboration enterprise for the United States Department of Defense (DOD). We are exploring using it as a potential replacement to Max.gov. Ahead of our next meeting, would a few people be willing to create an account (https://community.apan.org/support/w/kb/19051/1-create-apan-account/) and then attempt to join https://community.apan.org/wg/enterprise-mediawiki-community-of-practice/? I would like to get peopl
14. Rich: ^ feedback in the meeting to see if this will work as a viable alternative.
15. About APAN - APAN provides the DOD and mission partners community spaces and collaborative tools to leverage information to effectively plan, train and respond to meet their business requirements and mission objectives. APAN makes these tools available over the open internet so individuals and organizations who do not have access to traditional DOD systems and networks can participate in information sharing and collaborative events.
16. Tom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia
17. Bryan: Intellipedia. It's been written up. It's the Wikipedia on a classified network, with one very important difference: it's not anonymous. We want people to establish a reputation. If you're really good, we want people to know you're good. If you're making contributions, we want that known. If you're an idiot, we want that known too
18. Tom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia#Awards
19. Cindy: Sean Dennehy talking about Intellipedia at EMWCon 2017 in Virginia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgCvpy2P_Fo&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2c9MIMVeuoI8Q7eFrnT9Mdi&index=5
20. Cindy: And, of course, Tom talking about PowerPedia at the same conference:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfkfMHl4DQw&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2c9MIMVeuoI8Q7eFrnT9Mdi&index=9
21. And, the full federal government panel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZQ6lWg5Hww&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2c9MIMVeuoI8Q7eFrnT9Mdi&index=10
22. Rich: I took Yaron's WikiWorks "one good knife" analogy and generalized it for MW in general .. here it is: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Xjac81qdj0igo64t
23. Tom: https://www.cisa.gov/zero-trust-maturity-model
24. Bryan: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/M-22-09.pdf
25. Tom: https://www.intelink.gov/
26. Tom: Sorry to eat up so much meeting time
27. Bryan: No, that was really helpful, thanks Tom.
28. I'd really like to know how we can help advocate for Powerpedia (using MW!).
29. Tom: Thank you!
30. Markus: Thanks Gergö
31. Bryan: I think that was you Rich!
32. Cindy: I still think we need the Acquia of MediaWiki: https://www.acquia.com/drupal/acquia-drupal
33. Bryan: While MediaWiki is not a single software element solution that checks all the boxes of a security plan by itself (nothing is), it can, when used in conjunction with other administrative and technical elements of an overall system, definitely serve as the core element of a very secure knowledge infrastructure implementation.
34. ~ Rich: Tom: Acquia does an excellent job of promoting Druapl. I would love to see the same for MediaWiki.
35. I feel like there are some efforts
36. Rich: NIST FIPS-199 defines 3 dimensions of cybersecurity:
37. 1. Confidentiality
38. 2. Integrity
39. 3. Accessibility
40. and each IT system is requires to rate each of these dimensions in one of 3 levels:
41. 1. LOW
42. 2. MODERATE
43. 3. HIGH
44. Tom: https://canasta.wiki/ or https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meza?
45. Tom: Government wiki farm
46. Plus adding some good starter templates (infobox, navbox, etc.) with template data
47. Tom: I would love to see NASA offer that as a service
48. The CSP should be FedRAMP compliant
49. Tom: Rich - Could you share more details at an upcoming Federal meeting?
50. Tom: https://usalearning.gov/ hosts NRC wiki
51. Tom: Where is my ITIL manual when I need it
52. Rich: NIST FIPS 200 defines 20 control groups
53. Tom: https://wiki.en.it-processmaps.com/index.php/Availability_Management
54. Rich: NIST SP-800-53 Rev 5
55. Tom: We will let our ISSO team read Rev 5
56. Nick: please respond to jeff's email. i am curious what the team thinks.

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