7 August 2020 MWstake Meeting

Date (UTC):	7 August 2020 15:30:00 - 7 August 2020 16:30:00
URL:	https://meet.google.com/mdd-ufhn-ksb
Etherpad:	https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2020-08
Attendees:	Andreas Kukartz, Bryan Hildebrand, Gergő Tisza, Ike Hecht, Mark Hershberger, Thomas O'Neill, Vincent Brooks

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Meeting agenda

1. Wait for attendees & chat 5 min
2. This month in MediaWiki 15 min Gergo
3. Agenda Item XX min TBD
4. Wiki Watercooler remaining Open Mic

Notes

The meeting voice transcription is available on the talk page.

1. This month in MediaWiki (Gergo)
   • MediaWiki 1.35.0-rc.1 released - see email for download links and request for help with testing:
     • https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-August/093692.html
     • The VisualEditor extension should "just work" now
     • Lots of changes and deprecations in the skin system internals (as part of the new, reader-optimized mode in Vector), including a new logo format https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232140
     • New proposal to drop PHP 7.2 support in MW 1.35: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257879
   • New proposal to drop support for large upgrade "jumps": https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259771
   • New Wikimedia tech blog: https://diff.wikimedia.org/
   • New (online) meetup: Hallway Track https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/The_Hallway_Track
   • Chrome is rolling out SameSite cookies - you'll probably have to set
     • https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCookieSameSite to None to avoid weird issues (related code has been backported into the supported release branches, but no new point release has been made yet).
     • Also set https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseSameSiteLegacyCookies to true if you run a large site and want to support users with certain old browsers.
     • Related: set https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForceHTTPS to true on pure HTTPS wikis
   • The REST API (/w/rest.php) is now stable (and enabled by default). Check out
     • https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:REST_API/Reference for some new APIs available in 1.35.
   • Revert detection in core! See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgManualRevertSearchRadius (This will be available in 1.36.)
   • Starter kit for small wikis: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits/Starter_kit
     • This is meant for Wikimedia wikis, but maybe useful for others as well
   • Revision class migration manual: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Revision.php/Migration
2. Internships at the Department of Energy (DOE) (Tom)
   • Current internship opportunities:
     • https://vsfs.state.gov/projects/view/3005
     • https://vsfs.state.gov/projects/view/3006
   • Previous work done by interns at the DOE:
     • https://github.com/PowerpediaInterns
     • https://github.com/PowerpediaInterns/mediawiki-extensions-NewDuplicateUserMessage
     • https://github.com/PowerpediaInterns/mediawiki-bots/tree/master/pywikibot/scripts/userscripts/feed_external_links
     • https://github.com/PowerpediaInterns/mediawiki-bots/tree/master/pywikibot/scripts/userscripts/categorize_files
3. Tom O'Neill on Between the Brackets
   • https://betweenthebrackets.libsyn.com/episode-63-tom-oneill
4. MWStake Meeting improvements
   • (Gergo) Organizing the "Recent MWstake meetings" on the MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group (#MWstake) would be helpful
   • (Bryan) iCal for easier calendar integration would be nice
5. Transferring structured data from SMW to Cargo
   • (Vincent) Does anyone have any automation tools to migrate SMW structured data to Cargo?
   • (Bryan) I haven't, but I could try to get Yaron here next month to present on that as a featured topic
6. Lua
   • Some security discussions around using Lua/Scribunto on wikis
   • (Bryan) A nice Lua/Scribuntu reference manual

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