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|attendees=Lex Sulzer, Markus Glaser, Georgios Mavropalias, Megan Cutrofello, Rich Evans, Cindy Cicalese, Brian Wolff, Evita Hollis, Gergő Tisza, Jeroen De Dauw
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==Meeting agenda==
==Meeting agenda==
# '''Wait for attendees & chat''' {{Agenda time|5 min}}
# '''Wait for attendees & chat''' {{Agenda time|5 min}}
# '''Wiki Quickie''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} {{Agenda presenter|TBD}}
# '''Wiki Quickie''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Evita}} - '''[[Hiding page tabs]]'''
# '''Agenda Item''' {{Agenda time|XX min}} {{Agenda presenter|TBD}}
#* Hide the Visual Edit or Source Edit tabs from a page or namespace
# '''MWStake attendance at Wikimedia Summit 2020''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Mark}}
#* Helpful for when the page is controlled by a Page Form
# '''MWStake attendance at Wikimedia Summit 2020''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Markus}}
#* This conflicts with EMWCon2020, but we [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2020/Eligibility_Criteria are eligible] to send one person
#* This conflicts with EMWCon2020, but we [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2020/Eligibility_Criteria are eligible] to send one person
# '''MWStake Annual Report''' {{Agenda time|10 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Markus}}
#* Details on the 2019 report
#* General discussion on annual reporting for mwstake
# '''Wiki Watercooler''' {{Agenda time|remaining}} {{Agenda presenter|Open Mic}}
# '''Wiki Watercooler''' {{Agenda time|remaining}} {{Agenda presenter|Open Mic}}
#* Present any current issues you are having or things you're working on, ask the group for help/recommendations/suggestions
#* Present any current issues you are having or things you're working on, ask the group for help/recommendations/suggestions
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==Notes==
==Notes==
# '''Meeting timing'''
#* Some confusion over the meeting timing.
#* (Georgios) UTC 15:30 (7:30am PST, 10:30am EST, 4:30pm CET) works best for Australian users.
#* The UTC time was keep standard but the US daylight saving time change caused low meeting turn-out.  In the future, keeping the same time in the US seems preferred.
#* We need to work on a better communication method.  Cindy, Rich, and Bryan to work together on improving communication.
# '''(Markus) [[meta:Wikimedia Summit 2020|Wikimedia Summit]]'''
#* Markus is planning on going as long as nobody else has any issue.
#* The Summit dates conflict with [[MW:EMWCon Spring 2020|EMWCon 2020]]
#** Better for carbon footprint if someone from Europe attends the Summit
#* Markus requested inputs for agenda items he can bring to the Summit
#* (Gergo) I might be there in some capacity as well
# '''(Markus) MWStake Annual Reporting'''
#* We need to create a list of "things we did" in [[mw:MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group/Annual Report 2019|2019]] similar to previous years ([[mw:MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group/Annual Report 2018|2018]]):
#* As we formalize, we need to document our financing
# '''(Rich) [[MW:EMWCon Spring 2020|EMWCon 2020]]'''
#* Yaron agreed to front the money
#* Contract with Kalahari Conference Center is being finalized and hopefully will be signed later today
#* Please wait for the conference code to be announced to get the conference rates
#* Who can help with taking on the role of a Chair? Cindy said her arm could be twisted.
# '''Brian Wolff is back at the WMF'''
#* (Brian) discussed his new role and some security related topics
#* Proposal for [[mw:Requests for comment/Content-Security-Policy|Content-Security-Policy HTTP header on Wikimedia Wikis]] (Manual for [[mw:Manual:$wgCSPHeader|CSP Header]])
#* Content Security Policy (CSP) lets websites determine who they talk to
#** Prevents Cross-site Scripting
#** (Markus) How does the CSP support policy work?
#*** (Brian) Typical usecase - Prevent Google Analytics, prevents inline Javascript, limits Cross-site Scripting
# '''PageFoms Discussion'''
#* Based on [[Wikiversity:WikiJournal User Group|WikiJournals]] recent [[meta:Community Wishlist Survey 2020/Wikiversity/Simple structured input forms|request]] for using PageForms from their [[meta:WikiJournal/Technical_wishlist|Technical Wishlist]]
#* (Brian) Some things that would help get PageForms accepted by the WMF
#** Important to align with WMF's code policy
#** Adding Unit Tests
#** Get internal Champion
#** Could English Wikipedia add it to their Wishlist?  They usually get what they ask for.
#** Refactoring some of the most complex parts
# '''(Gergo) Parsoid'''
#* Used to be Node.js, now rewritten in PHP
#* It's live now and seems to have decent performance benefits
# '''(Gergo) Global Templates'''
#* [[mw:Global templates/Proposed specification, short version|Proposed specification]]


==Action board==
==Action board==

Latest revision as of 14:21, 27 December 2019

Blank.png Date (UTC): 6 December 2019 15:30:00 - 6 December 2019 16:30:00
Blank.png URL: https://meet.google.com/mdd-ufhn-ksb
Blank.png Etherpad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2019-12

Person.png Attendees: Brian Wolff, Cindy Cicalese, Evita Hollis, Georgios Mavropalias, Gergő Tisza, Jeroen De Dauw, Lex Sulzer, Markus Glaser, Megan Cutrofello, Rich Evans

Click for time zone conversion

Meeting agenda

  1. Wait for attendees & chat 5 min
  2. Wiki Quickie 5 min Evita - Hiding page tabs
    • Hide the Visual Edit or Source Edit tabs from a page or namespace
    • Helpful for when the page is controlled by a Page Form
  3. MWStake attendance at Wikimedia Summit 2020 5 min Markus
    • This conflicts with EMWCon2020, but we are eligible to send one person
  4. MWStake Annual Report 10 min Markus
    • Details on the 2019 report
    • General discussion on annual reporting for mwstake
  5. Wiki Watercooler remaining Open Mic
    • Present any current issues you are having or things you're working on, ask the group for help/recommendations/suggestions
    • Add any Wiki Watercooler items you may have to the Etherpad

Notes

  1. Meeting timing
    • Some confusion over the meeting timing.
    • (Georgios) UTC 15:30 (7:30am PST, 10:30am EST, 4:30pm CET) works best for Australian users.
    • The UTC time was keep standard but the US daylight saving time change caused low meeting turn-out. In the future, keeping the same time in the US seems preferred.
    • We need to work on a better communication method. Cindy, Rich, and Bryan to work together on improving communication.
  2. (Markus) Wikimedia Summit
    • Markus is planning on going as long as nobody else has any issue.
    • The Summit dates conflict with EMWCon 2020
      • Better for carbon footprint if someone from Europe attends the Summit
    • Markus requested inputs for agenda items he can bring to the Summit
    • (Gergo) I might be there in some capacity as well
  3. (Markus) MWStake Annual Reporting
    • We need to create a list of "things we did" in 2019 similar to previous years (2018):
    • As we formalize, we need to document our financing
  4. (Rich) EMWCon 2020
    • Yaron agreed to front the money
    • Contract with Kalahari Conference Center is being finalized and hopefully will be signed later today
    • Please wait for the conference code to be announced to get the conference rates
    • Who can help with taking on the role of a Chair? Cindy said her arm could be twisted.
  5. Brian Wolff is back at the WMF
    • (Brian) discussed his new role and some security related topics
    • Proposal for Content-Security-Policy HTTP header on Wikimedia Wikis (Manual for CSP Header)
    • Content Security Policy (CSP) lets websites determine who they talk to
      • Prevents Cross-site Scripting
      • (Markus) How does the CSP support policy work?
        • (Brian) Typical usecase - Prevent Google Analytics, prevents inline Javascript, limits Cross-site Scripting
  6. PageFoms Discussion
    • Based on WikiJournals recent request for using PageForms from their Technical Wishlist
    • (Brian) Some things that would help get PageForms accepted by the WMF
      • Important to align with WMF's code policy
      • Adding Unit Tests
      • Get internal Champion
      • Could English Wikipedia add it to their Wishlist? They usually get what they ask for.
      • Refactoring some of the most complex parts
  7. (Gergo) Parsoid
    • Used to be Node.js, now rewritten in PHP
    • It's live now and seems to have decent performance benefits
  8. (Gergo) Global Templates

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