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As part of her commitment "to listen and seek to understand", the incoming CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation, Maryana Iskander, is undertaking a listening tour of the Wikimedia movement.
As part of her commitment "to listen and seek to understand", the incoming CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryana_Iskander Maryana Iskander], is undertaking a listening tour of the Wikimedia movement.


The MediaWiki Stakeholder's Group is hosting a Zoom call for all MediaWiki users to discuss MediaWiki and its importance to the Wikimedia Foundation's vision to "freely share in the sum of all knowledge."
The MediaWiki Stakeholder's Group is hosting a Zoom call for all MediaWiki users to discuss MediaWiki and its importance to the Wikimedia Foundation's vision to "freely share in the sum of all knowledge."
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This meeting is governed by the [https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy Wikimedia Friendly Space Policy].
This meeting is governed by the [https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy Wikimedia Friendly Space Policy].


Information links:
Links:
* [https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=12,100,5,8&h=100&date=2021-11-24&sln=15-16&hf=1 Time conversion link]
* [https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=12,100,5,8&h=100&date=2021-11-24&sln=15-16&hf=1 Time conversion link]
* [https://w.wiki/4AXf Maryana's Listening tour]
* [https://w.wiki/4AXf Maryana's Listening tour]
* [https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-Maryana-Iskander Etherpad] (add your questions here)




<span style="background-color:#07a288; border:1px solid black; text-align:center; padding: 0 5px 0 5px; display:inline-block; border-radius:10px; color:white; font-size:1.2em; font-weight:bold;">[https://wikimedia.zoom.us/j/83321237625?pwd=Q1NwZVgwbTZUVm8vZENHdHZqSUhDUT09 Join Zoom call]</span>
==Meeting details==
 
===Video===
[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Maryana_Iskander_-_MWStake_2021.webm Click here]
 
===Raw Transcript===
[[Event talk:146|Raw transcript from Zoom]]
 
 
===Chat===
* {{Agenda presenter|Antoine Musso}} Antoine here, past author of MediaWiki but I am not involved anymore. I am here out of curiosity :]
* {{Agenda presenter|Cindy Cicalese}} https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy
* {{Agenda presenter|Alexis Hershberger}} Alexis, user, here to listen.  :)
* {{Agenda presenter|Krinkle}} Wikivoyage.org: travel guide wiki.
* {{Agenda presenter|Gergő Tisza}} https://www.appropedia.org/ is also a quite impressive wiki (about sustainable technologies for people in emerging economies)
* {{Agenda presenter|Daniel Kinzler}} Happy to talk about Wikibase, since I was involved with it's inception and implementation
* {{Agenda presenter|Derk-Jan Hartman}} Might be good to mention why ppl felt there was a need for mwstake a couple years ago.
* {{Agenda presenter|Bryan Hilderbrand}} For anyone that came after the original chat post, feel free to add your questions here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-Maryana-Iskander
* {{Agenda presenter|Krinkle}} Wikibase, as deployed on Wikidata, powers parts of Apple SIri, Google Knowledge Graph, Alexa, etc.
* {{Agenda presenter|Bryan Hilderbrand}} Wikibase is now increasingly being used outside WMF sites as well including Libraries, Galleries, Museums, etc.
* {{Agenda presenter|Gergő Tisza}} I think English Wikipedia feels they have higher verification / anti vandalism standards than Wikidata (a smaller, newer community) so they are skeptical of the idea of outsourcing some of their knowledge curation to that project
* {{Agenda presenter|Mehrdad Pourzaki}} From Wikidata - Maryana Iskander (Q86589685)
* {{Agenda presenter|Daniel Kinzler}} :)
* {{Agenda presenter|Gergő Tisza}}  ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q86589685 )
* {{Agenda presenter|Krinkle}} These identifiers are especially useful for disambiguation, e.g. which of the 300 remakes of a film are we talking about, or maybe the book, or maybe some other concept that shares the same word/name.
* {{Agenda presenter|Bryan Hilderbrand}} Great example Mehrdad :)
* {{Agenda presenter|Gergő Tisza}} https://betweenthebrackets.libsyn.com/episode-3-mike-cariaso is a great podcast with the founder of SNPedia where he goes into how great unique identifiers are, e.g. for NLP
* {{Agenda presenter|Eric-Jan van Kakerken}} More clarity from the MWF would ask for policy
* {{Agenda presenter|Bill Pirkle}} Fandom: https://www.fandom.com/
* {{Agenda presenter|Krinkle}} e.g. https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Flower_Shop (beware, commercial adverts present on the page)
* {{Agenda presenter|Mehrdad Pourzaki}} Recommendation 1 :)
* {{Agenda presenter|Gergő Tisza}} https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1w0Gq1FgyFuKw_6bMPUfvYQc9CTtRdmwwjGMrE69zpjk/edit was my old deck about this
* {{Agenda presenter|Antoine Musso}} Time check: 15 minutes left
* {{Agenda presenter|Richard Heigl}} I have something to Daniel and Gergö
* {{Agenda presenter|Daniel Kinzler}} Daniel Mietchen is the guy to talk to about scientific publishing on MediaWiki
* {{Agenda presenter|Gergő Tisza}} MediaWiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_2/Product_%26_Technology/7 is the movement strategy recommendation about (this is a draft; in the final text most things are super-compressed and not easily understandable)
* {{Agenda presenter|Bryan Hilderbrand}} Daniel: Thomas Shafee is also involved with scientific publishing on MW.  Thanks for the tip on Daniel Mietchen!
* {{Agenda presenter|Markus Glaser}} gerrit
* {{Agenda presenter|Eric-Jan van Kakerken}} I agree with Richard. What´s the WMF/MWStakeholders relationship aiming for and what is the linked plan? Please keep us posted on this Maryana.
* {{Agenda presenter|Krinkle}} Is that based on mediawiki/core and grouping authors by org association?
* {{Agenda presenter|Derk-Jan Hartman}} Yeah the foundation has really closed down
* {{Agenda presenter|Mehrdad Pourzaki}} Wiki conference season 🙂
* {{Agenda presenter|Bryan Hilderbrand}} Time check.  About 1 minute. We need to wrap up :)
* {{Agenda presenter|Derk-Jan Hartman}} exactly
* {{Agenda presenter|Bernhard Krabina}} Hope to see many of you at #SMWCon: https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2021
* {{Agenda presenter|Antoine Musso}} Thank you to have organized this session!
* {{Agenda presenter|Mehrdad Pourzaki}} Thank you all for being here
* {{Agenda presenter|Bryan Hilderbrand}} Thanks Maryana!!!
* {{Agenda presenter|Richard Heigl}} Thank you all.
* {{Agenda presenter|Derk-Jan Hartman}} Good point Mark !
* {{Agenda presenter|Greg Rundlett}} I want to welcome Maryana and wish Good Luck! And Thank You!
* {{Agenda presenter|Siebrand Mazeland}} Bye!

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Blank.png Date (UTC): 24 November 2021 15:00:00 - 24 November 2021 16:00:00

Person.png Attendees: Šarūnas, Aleksey, Alexis Hershberger, Antoine Musso, Ariel Glenn, BD808, Bernhard Krabina, Bill Pirkle, Bryan Hildebrand, Cindy Cicalese, Clara Andrew-Wani, Daniel Kinzler, Derk-Jan Hartman, Eric-Jan, Gergő Tisza, Greg Rundle, Krinkle, Lex Sulzer, Mark Hershberger, Markus Glaser, Maryana Iskander, Mehrdad Pourzaki, Petr Pchelko, Richard Heigl, Robert Vogel, Siebrand Mazeland, Testimony, Thomas Chin

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As part of her commitment "to listen and seek to understand", the incoming CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation, Maryana Iskander, is undertaking a listening tour of the Wikimedia movement.

The MediaWiki Stakeholder's Group is hosting a Zoom call for all MediaWiki users to discuss MediaWiki and its importance to the Wikimedia Foundation's vision to "freely share in the sum of all knowledge."

Please join us for a short presentation followed by a Q&A.

This meeting is governed by the Wikimedia Friendly Space Policy.

Links:


Meeting details

Video

Click here

Raw Transcript

Raw transcript from Zoom


Chat

  • Antoine Musso Antoine here, past author of MediaWiki but I am not involved anymore. I am here out of curiosity :]
  • Cindy Cicalese https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy
  • Alexis Hershberger Alexis, user, here to listen.  :)
  • Krinkle Wikivoyage.org: travel guide wiki.
  • Gergő Tisza https://www.appropedia.org/ is also a quite impressive wiki (about sustainable technologies for people in emerging economies)
  • Daniel Kinzler Happy to talk about Wikibase, since I was involved with it's inception and implementation
  • Derk-Jan Hartman Might be good to mention why ppl felt there was a need for mwstake a couple years ago.
  • Bryan Hilderbrand For anyone that came after the original chat post, feel free to add your questions here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-Maryana-Iskander
  • Krinkle Wikibase, as deployed on Wikidata, powers parts of Apple SIri, Google Knowledge Graph, Alexa, etc.
  • Bryan Hilderbrand Wikibase is now increasingly being used outside WMF sites as well including Libraries, Galleries, Museums, etc.
  • Gergő Tisza I think English Wikipedia feels they have higher verification / anti vandalism standards than Wikidata (a smaller, newer community) so they are skeptical of the idea of outsourcing some of their knowledge curation to that project
  • Mehrdad Pourzaki From Wikidata - Maryana Iskander (Q86589685)
  • Daniel Kinzler :)
  • Gergő Tisza ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q86589685 )
  • Krinkle These identifiers are especially useful for disambiguation, e.g. which of the 300 remakes of a film are we talking about, or maybe the book, or maybe some other concept that shares the same word/name.
  • Bryan Hilderbrand Great example Mehrdad :)
  • Gergő Tisza https://betweenthebrackets.libsyn.com/episode-3-mike-cariaso is a great podcast with the founder of SNPedia where he goes into how great unique identifiers are, e.g. for NLP
  • Eric-Jan van Kakerken More clarity from the MWF would ask for policy
  • Bill Pirkle Fandom: https://www.fandom.com/
  • Krinkle e.g. https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Flower_Shop (beware, commercial adverts present on the page)
  • Mehrdad Pourzaki Recommendation 1 :)
  • Gergő Tisza https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1w0Gq1FgyFuKw_6bMPUfvYQc9CTtRdmwwjGMrE69zpjk/edit was my old deck about this
  • Antoine Musso Time check: 15 minutes left
  • Richard Heigl I have something to Daniel and Gergö
  • Daniel Kinzler Daniel Mietchen is the guy to talk to about scientific publishing on MediaWiki
  • Gergő Tisza MediaWiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_2/Product_%26_Technology/7 is the movement strategy recommendation about (this is a draft; in the final text most things are super-compressed and not easily understandable)
  • Bryan Hilderbrand Daniel: Thomas Shafee is also involved with scientific publishing on MW. Thanks for the tip on Daniel Mietchen!
  • Markus Glaser gerrit
  • Eric-Jan van Kakerken I agree with Richard. What´s the WMF/MWStakeholders relationship aiming for and what is the linked plan? Please keep us posted on this Maryana.
  • Krinkle Is that based on mediawiki/core and grouping authors by org association?
  • Derk-Jan Hartman Yeah the foundation has really closed down
  • Mehrdad Pourzaki Wiki conference season 🙂
  • Bryan Hilderbrand Time check. About 1 minute. We need to wrap up :)
  • Derk-Jan Hartman exactly
  • Bernhard Krabina Hope to see many of you at #SMWCon: https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2021
  • Antoine Musso Thank you to have organized this session!
  • Mehrdad Pourzaki Thank you all for being here
  • Bryan Hilderbrand Thanks Maryana!!!
  • Richard Heigl Thank you all.
  • Derk-Jan Hartman Good point Mark !
  • Greg Rundlett I want to welcome Maryana and wish Good Luck! And Thank You!
  • Siebrand Mazeland Bye!
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