Event:167 - Revision history

Bryandamon at 21:29, 6 February 2023

2023-02-06T21:29:48Z

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			\|attendees=Bernhard Krabina, Brian Wolff, Bryan Hildebrand, Charlot Cobben, Cindy Cicalese, Gergő Tisza, Greg Rundlett, Jared Olson, Lex Sulzer, Mark Hershberger, Markus Glaser, Michael Barylak, Yaron Koren, Jeffrey Wang
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Bryandamon at 21:28, 6 February 2023

2023-02-06T21:28:19Z

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	# '''MediaWiki News''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Gergo}}		# '''MediaWiki News''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Gergo}}
			#* Notes: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-02
			#* Jumping from 1.31 to 1.39 is problematic, until it's patched you need to jump to 1.35 first
	# '''Microsoft's extensions''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Jeffery Wang}}		# '''Microsoft's extensions''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Jeffery Wang}}
	#* I worked to get to open source all of the 20+ extensions written by Microsoft.		#* I worked to get to open source all of the 20+ extensions written by Microsoft.
	#* I've picked a few of them to start with and we'll go from there.		#* I've picked a few of them to start with and we'll go from there.
	#* The team that wrote it is currently busy with other priorities, so I will be personally cleaning up the code in my spare time to make it ready for public release.		#* The team that wrote it is currently busy with other priorities, so I will be personally cleaning up the code in my spare time to make it ready for public release.
			#* There were 10 reasons why Microsoft used MediaWiki internally over SharePoint 10 years ago, but lately they are concerned with accessibility and couldn't get patches into MW to support their needs so switching away.
	# '''New functionality for uploading documents, converting them in to wikitext, and adding them to a Wiki page''' {{Agenda time\|10 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Charly}}		# '''New functionality for uploading documents, converting them in to wikitext, and adding them to a Wiki page''' {{Agenda time\|10 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Charly}}
	## Background		## Background

Bryandamon: /* Chat transcript */

2023-02-06T21:25:36Z

Chat transcript

Bryandamon at 21:24, 6 February 2023

2023-02-06T21:24:50Z

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	# '''Wiki Watercooler''' {{Agenda time\|remaining}} {{Agenda presenter\|Open Mic}}		# '''Wiki Watercooler''' {{Agenda time\|remaining}} {{Agenda presenter\|Open Mic}}


			==Chat transcript==
			# '''Bryan:''' https://mwstake.org/mwstake/wiki/Event:167
			# '''Gergo:''' the links are at https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-02 as usual
			# '''Bryan:''' @Gergo, you said don't upgrade from 1.31->1.39 yet (jump to 1.35 first). Is there a plan to eventually improve that or is the intermediary hop the normal process.
			# '''Brian Wolff8:''' There was an RFC about only supporting updating from last 2 LTS releases
			# '''Gergo:''' There is a fix in the REL1_39 branch, it will be included in 1.39.2 when that comes out (soon)
			# '''Brian Wolff:''' After some experience with it, i don't really like it, because installing intermediate versions can be hard, if updating from something really old. You can't just apt get install php 5 easily on a modern distro
			# '''Brian Wolff:''' I would certainly be interesting in why MS is jumping ship
			# '''Bryan:''' @Brian +1
			# '''Brian Wolff:''' Oh, that's a super interesting workflow to do it from the upload page
			# '''Brian Wolff:''' Why do they not love us anymore?? :'(
			# '''Brian Wolff:''' in general, us not using markdown seems like it is more and more a sticking point for developer types
			# '''Brian Wolff:''' What six months is not timely ;)
			# '''Bryan:''' Legacy Vector (As the best of the skins...)
			# '''Bryan:''' Maybe try to hand over to Charly in about 3 minutes. His presentation is 10 minutes and will probably have additional questions.
			# '''Jeffrey Wang:''' https://github.com/microsoft/MediaWiki-Extensions
			# '''Brian Wolff:''' To be clear, for the thing I am trying to do, the primary target audience is people who are actively participating in MW already. Although if it helps in cases like this that'd be great too
			# '''Jeffrey:''' Bernhard, to add on to your question, we are releasing under the MIT license, so it's pretty versatile for repurposing it for your own use. But we will need to at least keep our version of the extension on GitHub.
			# '''Brian Wolff:''' FWIW, on the accessability topic, I found https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T242357 which i think thas the output of the tool in question
			# '''Gergo:''' https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T323634 was the Vector 2022 AFB report
			# '''Mark:''' very nice
			# '''Bryan:''' The fact that is can handle images AT ALL is incredible. The ability to add images inline and sized appropriately is mind blowing.
			# '''Jeffrey:''' btw, I know there may be some questions about what will happen with the Microsoft version of PandocUpload. If we have time, we can go over that.
			# '''Jeffrey Wang:''' but you could know if it's the same by doing a hash, right? MediaWiki has that functionality
			# '''Greg:''' yes

Bryandamon at 22:14, 2 February 2023

2023-02-02T22:14:11Z

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	# '''MediaWiki News''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Gergo}}		# '''MediaWiki News''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Gergo}}
	# '''Microsoft's extensions''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Jeffery Wang}}		# '''Microsoft's extensions''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Jeffery Wang}}
			#* I worked to get to open source all of the 20+ extensions written by Microsoft.
			#* I've picked a few of them to start with and we'll go from there.
			#* The team that wrote it is currently busy with other priorities, so I will be personally cleaning up the code in my spare time to make it ready for public release.
	# '''New functionality for uploading documents, converting them in to wikitext, and adding them to a Wiki page''' {{Agenda time\|10 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Charly}}		# '''New functionality for uploading documents, converting them in to wikitext, and adding them to a Wiki page''' {{Agenda time\|10 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Charly}}
	## Background		## Background

Bryandamon at 22:12, 2 February 2023

2023-02-02T22:12:03Z

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	# '''MediaWiki News''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Gergo}}		# '''MediaWiki News''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Gergo}}
	# '''Microsoft's extensions''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Jeffery Wang}}		# '''Microsoft's extensions''' {{Agenda time\|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Jeffery Wang}}

	# '''New functionality for uploading documents, converting them in to wikitext, and adding them to a Wiki page''' {{Agenda time\|10 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Charly}}		# '''New functionality for uploading documents, converting them in to wikitext, and adding them to a Wiki page''' {{Agenda time\|10 min}} {{Agenda presenter\|Charly}}
	## Background		## Background

Bryandamon at 22:07, 2 February 2023

2023-02-02T22:07:45Z

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Mark Hershberger: friday!

2023-01-31T00:37:20Z

friday!

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# '''MediaWiki News''' {{Agenda time|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Gergo}}
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	# '''Gergo:''' the links are at https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-02 as usual		# '''Gergo:''' the links are at https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2023-02 as usual
	# '''Bryan:''' @Gergo, you said don't upgrade from 1.31->1.39 yet (jump to 1.35 first). Is there a plan to eventually improve that or is the intermediary hop the normal process.		# '''Bryan:''' @Gergo, you said don't upgrade from 1.31->1.39 yet (jump to 1.35 first). Is there a plan to eventually improve that or is the intermediary hop the normal process.
	# '''Brian ~~Wolff8~~:''' There was an RFC about only supporting updating from last 2 LTS releases		# '''Brian Wolff:''' There was an RFC about only supporting updating from last 2 LTS releases
	# '''Gergo:''' There is a fix in the REL1_39 branch, it will be included in 1.39.2 when that comes out (soon)		# '''Gergo:''' There is a fix in the REL1_39 branch, it will be included in 1.39.2 when that comes out (soon)
	# '''Brian Wolff:''' After some experience with it, i don't really like it, because installing intermediate versions can be hard, if updating from something really old. You can't just apt get install php 5 easily on a modern distro		# '''Brian Wolff:''' After some experience with it, i don't really like it, because installing intermediate versions can be hard, if updating from something really old. You can't just apt get install php 5 easily on a modern distro
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	# '''Bryan:''' Legacy Vector (As the best of the skins...)		# '''Bryan:''' Legacy Vector (As the best of the skins...)
	# '''Bryan:''' Maybe try to hand over to Charly in about 3 minutes. His presentation is 10 minutes and will probably have additional questions.		# '''Bryan:''' Maybe try to hand over to Charly in about 3 minutes. His presentation is 10 minutes and will probably have additional questions.
	# '''Jeffrey ~~Wang~~:''' https://github.com/microsoft/MediaWiki-Extensions		# '''Jeffrey:''' https://github.com/microsoft/MediaWiki-Extensions
	# '''Brian Wolff:''' To be clear, for the thing I am trying to do, the primary target audience is people who are actively participating in MW already. Although if it helps in cases like this that'd be great too		# '''Brian Wolff:''' To be clear, for the thing I am trying to do, the primary target audience is people who are actively participating in MW already. Although if it helps in cases like this that'd be great too
	# '''Jeffrey:''' Bernhard, to add on to your question, we are releasing under the MIT license, so it's pretty versatile for repurposing it for your own use. But we will need to at least keep our version of the extension on GitHub.		# '''Jeffrey:''' Bernhard, to add on to your question, we are releasing under the MIT license, so it's pretty versatile for repurposing it for your own use. But we will need to at least keep our version of the extension on GitHub.
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	# '''Bryan:''' The fact that is can handle images AT ALL is incredible. The ability to add images inline and sized appropriately is mind blowing.		# '''Bryan:''' The fact that is can handle images AT ALL is incredible. The ability to add images inline and sized appropriately is mind blowing.
	# '''Jeffrey:''' btw, I know there may be some questions about what will happen with the Microsoft version of PandocUpload. If we have time, we can go over that.		# '''Jeffrey:''' btw, I know there may be some questions about what will happen with the Microsoft version of PandocUpload. If we have time, we can go over that.
	# '''Jeffrey ~~Wang~~:''' but you could know if it's the same by doing a hash, right? MediaWiki has that functionality		# '''Jeffrey:''' but you could know if it's the same by doing a hash, right? MediaWiki has that functionality
	# '''Greg:''' yes		# '''Greg:''' yes