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==Meeting agenda==
# '''Wait for attendees & chat''' {{Agenda time|5 min}}
# <del>'''Wiki Quickie''' {{Agenda time|10 min}}</del> - No topic
# '''Consider MWStake role/support for SMWCon Fall 2020''' {{Agenda time|10 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Lex}}
# '''Sunflower distribution''' {{Agenda time|20 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Mark}}
# '''MediaWiki news channel''' {{Agenda time|15 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Richard}}

==Notes==
Shared notes: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2019-10

# '''Process & Safety Management (PSM) with MW + SMW'''
#* {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} I developed a Hazard & Risk analysis for PSM to meet ISO & OSHA requirements using MediaWiki + Semantic MediaWiki
#* {{Action}} {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} should plan a presentation of this for the [[Event:95|next mwstake meeting]].
# '''Announcing SMWCon 2020'''
#* {{Agenda presenter|Lex}} During SMWCon2019, Matteo Busanelli announced his desire to chair SMWCon 2020
#* {{Agenda presenter|Lex}} MWStake should support the conference
#* {{Agenda presenter|Markus}} 3rd party MW Maintainers "hang out" at SMWCons
#* {{Agenda presenter|Cindy}} MWStake should definitely support SMWCon & EMWCon, but what does "support" mean?  So far, we haven't been able to support financially, we might be able to in the future, but unsure now.
#* {{Agenda presenter|Bernhard}} There is potential for financial support by [https://www.opensemanticdata.org/ OSDA]
#* {{Agenda presenter|Lex}} As a note, OSDA wasn't able to support SMWCon 2019
# '''Announcing [[MW:Talk:EMWCon Spring 2020|EMWCon 2020]]'''
#* {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} I have full support of my management
#* {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} Would like to determine an organizing committee.  Who is in-charge of the process?
#* {{Agenda presenter|Mark}} We should define the process (it doesn't currently exist), but we would like to help where we can
#* {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} Noted, I just don't want to do anything out of normal practices
#* {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} Gave some background on NASA with regards to the conference and a possible tour
#** {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} NASA is spread into 10 field centers
#** {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} NASA Glen in Cleveland Ohio is lesser known.  Most others are "mission" oriented, further north facilities are "tech/research" divisions
#** {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} NASA Plum Brook Station is located in rural Ohio, "we are a torture chamber for equipment that is launched".  Others design equipment, we reproduce flight/operation conditions
#** {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} We could do a tour including the world's largest space vacuum chamber
#** {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} We can offer conference facilities at no cost
#** {{Agenda presenter|Mark}} Are Foreign Nationals OK?
#** {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} Great question.  We can either host within NASA, but would need prior notice for admitting foreign nationals or host at the [https://www.kalaharimeetings.com/ohio Kalahari conference center] (literally across the street) which would not need any prior notice.  What are we trying to prioritize? 1) Cost or 2) Non-US attendance?
#** {{Agenda presenter|Cindy}} We have the budget from when we hosted in Virginia @ MITRE and we had foreign nationals which came with some restrictions, but we were able to accommodate
#** {{Agenda presenter|Brian}} If the location requires early foreign national registration, it should be advertised early & clearly
#** {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} We would need to know the Min/Max attendees to contact Kalahari, do we know that?
#** {{Agenda presenter|Mark}} Min/Max is probably around 30-80, but it probably won't exceed 50
#** {{Agenda presenter|Gergo}} If you advertise the tour of NASA, we could get 100+ attendees, some of which have never used MW :)
#** {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} We should try to optimize "Maximum Pull", try to get the most people able to come.  In Paris, 2 people added in the last 24 hours
#** {{Agenda presenter|Markus}} Europeans will likely need to plan in advance anyway to just make the flight, usually 4 weeks
#** {{Agenda presenter|Brian}} As a Canadian, we book at least 4 weeks due to cost.  Also, Early access to program content is always a good idea
# '''News channel for MW'''
#* {{Agenda presenter|Richard}} As a group we need a place where news about MW, SMW, extensions, skins, etc. can be published
#* {{Agenda presenter|Richard}} Technically it's planned to be supported by [https://en.hallowelt.com/ Hallo Welt!], but under the umbrella of MWStake
#* {{Agenda presenter|Richard}} We'd like to start within the year
#* {{Agenda presenter|Richard}} Any ideas for content?
#* {{Agenda presenter|Richard}} Trying to address the needs not met by existing mailing lists, chat room, etc.
# '''Sunflower distribution'''
#* {{Agenda presenter|Richard}} Pitched the idea for a "standard distribution of MediaWiki+ that all in the community could support and use
#* {{Agenda presenter|Greg}} How would this distribution be used?  I've been using Meza.  Once VE or Elastic Search is included, it gets difficult
#* {{Agenda presenter|Mark}} Good point, we may have too many "brands" (MediaWiki, Semantic MediaWiki, BlueSpice, Meza, QualityBox, etc.)
#* {{Agenda presenter|Markus}} Ideally we can define a "common core" that can be maintained by many people
#* {{Agenda presenter|Bryan}} This sounds like we are trying to find a consensus between different groups and users, how will we achieve this consensus?
#** {{Agenda presenter|Greg}} We could use my [https://discourse.equality-tech.com Discourse Forum] or a wiki
#* {{Agenda presenter|Mark}} I propose a governing document to clearly define what is included in the sunflower distribution, but others can imliment/orchestrate via Docker/Ansible/Kubernetes/etc. on CentOS/Debian/Ubuntu/etc. as they see fit.  The document just defines the components.

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