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==Meeting agenda==
# '''Wait for attendees & chat''' {{Agenda time|5 min}}
# '''Wiki Moment''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Bryan}}
#* Brief discussion to customizing and [[Sidebar tinkering|adding tooltips to the sidebar menu]]
# '''Intro to new meeting structure''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Bryan}}
#* Discuss new '''MWStake''' meeting format and rationale (more useful to participants & more structured)
#* Evita will be structuring the meetings, send her topics, discuss where to add ideas and comments (including now in chat)
# '''EMWCon 2019 Recap''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Unknown}}
#* Highlights for those that missed it
# '''SMWCon 2019 Update and Planning''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Lex}}
#* Regarding MWStake's upcoming '''SMWCon Fall 2019''' organizational role we schedule a '''brief coordination meeting right after''' this regular MWStake monthly meeting, i.e. at '''16:30 UTC'''. Please see/add_to '''https://manage.mwstake.org/wiki/C1237859930#Agenda'''.
# '''MWStake Bylaws & Incorporation Update''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Mark}}
#* Generally the [[bylaws]] have been approved
#* Next steps
# '''Membership Dues''' {{Agenda time|10 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Mark}}
#* Feedback on [[Bylaws/Dues|current structure]] on the [[Talk:Bylaws/Dues|talk page]]
# '''Duplicator Task''' {{Agenda time|10 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Mark}} {{Agenda presenter|Lex}}
#* This was discussed during EMWCon 2019
#* Stewardship of an extension
#* First task to understand how the group can work together to accomplish a goal
#* This can provide a framework for future stewardship of a "suite" of MWStake currated extensions for enterprise use
#* Notes from Rich (who can't make it) in defense of using [[mw:Extension:Duplicator|Extension:Duplicator]] for this purpose:
#*: All I would say is that we have a page that is a collection of status updates and the date is part of the page name. Each day people use the Duplicator special page to do a "Save-As" of the page called "Work Status 2019-05-01" and copy it as "Work Status 2019-05-02" and then edit it from there. It's nothing that could be a template.. over the course of 5 or 10 days everything becomes completely different, but from one day to the next, not so much. It's a "Save-As" extension for wiki pages within the wiki.. just like every stand-alone office application has.

==Notes==
Shared notes: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2019-05

#'''Intro to new meeting structure - Bryan'''
#*{{Action}} Determine the best approach for members to notify Evita about topics for meeting agendas
#*{{Action}} (Daren) NASA has a method for customizing the sidebar base on the user -- will follow up on sharing this during the next meeting
#'''Highlights from the Spring EMWCon 2019 '''
#*(Greg) Pros
#**Good facilities
#**Networking with those from MWStake 
#**Personal connections
#** Help with solutions that would have taken a lot of time
#* (Greg) Cons
#**Presentation difficulties (technical issues and communication barriers)
#** No deals???
#* (Lex) Participant came only for the create camp - considered to be the richest experience so far
#*(Daren) Encourage current participants to try to bring new participants
#'''SMWCon 2019 Update and Planning - Lex'''
#* May 13 - Launch of website and official information
#*Paris (confirmed)
#* Sept 25 - 27 (confirmed)
#* 80 people
#'''MWStake Bylaws & Incorporation Update - Mark'''
#* Bylaws have been approved
#* Next step in the non-profit status
#*SMWCON 2019 -- not sure how to handle Euros, otherwise XXX could handle
#'''Membership dues - Mark/Bryan/Evita'''
#*The Corporate (cost) steps might be to large
#**{{Action}} Members are asked to provide feedback on fee schedule
#*Users represent the users of the software within the company
#*Objective of the membership
#**Income the support legal fees
#**Promotion of the MW software beyond ourselves
#*** marketing
#** Taken from the Bylaws
#**:2.3.1 Contribute to the development of MediaWiki;
#**:2.3.2 Maintain MediaWiki and its extensions;
#**:2.3.3 Improve documentation for MediaWiki and its extensions;
#**:2.3.4 Cooperate and liaison with the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.;
#**:2.3.5 Coordinate between MediaWiki developers, operators, and users;
#**:2.3.6 Promote MediaWiki to the public;
#**:2.3.7 Act as a patron and coordinator for international gatherings, conferences, hackathons, etc.;
#**:2.3.8 Advocate on behalf of third-party users of MediaWiki; and
#**:2.3.9 Foster best practices for MediaWiki and its users.
#*Potential corporations are those who want to be affiliated with MWStake and support MW outside of the foundation
#*{{Action}} Gergo will determine a place to put info on MediaWiki.org to allow feedback on the dues
#*Voting concern
#**Why would I be a "Gold" member of I only get one additional vote?
#**{{Action}} Members are asked to provide feedback on a voting structure
#*(Lex) What are the top 3 business cases that the money will be spent on?
#**Should Corporate membership have a guaranteed project completion?
#'''Duplicator Task'''
#*Other extensions to consider as the group's first project
#**(Lex) Example and BoilerPlate extensions
#*The group pays someone to take responsibility of the extension
#**Someone tied to MW core
#**Might be difficulty as they might not be able to except or have the time
#*(Bryan) Boilerplate sounds like a good start.  Also, I think I remember Daren having a reservation about using Duplicator as a first extension to work on.
#*(Cindy) The problem with starting from my old extensions is that I may miss changes since they were created. I often think I should go back and re-read the mw.o documentation on creating an extension to see what has been updated.
#* (Daren) regarding boilerplate extensions, James made https://github.com/enterprisemediawiki/BasicParserFunction but it looks like it hasn't been touched in 4 years. Maybe it could help.
#*(Gergo) the related task is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97105 BTW
#*(Gergo) cookiecutter is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cookiecutter-mediawiki-extension
#*Next steps
#**The "Example/BoilerPlate" extension will be the first project -https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BoilerPlate
#'''Lighting announcements'''
#*(Gergo)

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