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MWstake Meeting?  Yes  No Title: MWstake meeting Start Date: Start Time (UTC): 15 : End Date: End Time (UTC): 16 : URL: Tags: Attendees: Markus GlaserAlexis HershbergerMark HershbergerCindy CicaleseKarsten HoffmeyerNatasha BrownChris KoernerMichael Anthony AlabastroTyler RomeoSiebrand Mazeland

== Time and Place == [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=MediaWiki+Cooperation+Meeting&iso=20141205T1500&p1=1440&ah=1 5 December, 2014 at 3 PM UTC] ; Dial in * [https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/bWFya3VzLnIuZ2xhc2VyQGdvb2dsZW1haWwuY29t.cnc6cd0o70jd7jls3r3pfl45is?authuser=0 Google Hangout] ; Whiteboard * http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wiki-Co-op ; Attendees (for real) * [https://plus.google.com/events/chjem23kjqtlkjibd4sgeh5a7rc?authkey=CJus9PTHxOa32AE&cfem=1 Attendees] == Agenda == # Welcome - Markus # MediaWiki Stakeholders Group Recognized! # Release 1.24.0 # Upcoming release: Want anything special for that release? # Bug reports and users' experiences - Mark # RFC process ## How many people use composer as a basis? ## Extension management ## Opt-in "Registration" for update notification. # State of projects ## Feature wishlist (Google Code-in students may work on this, too.) ## Roadmap ## Publicizing 1.24 # Future conferences for a track ## Wikimania 2015 ### Mexico City, July 15-19 ### Location and accommodation information are available at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Mexico_City ## '''European Hackathon 2015''' ### '''Lyon, France, May 23-25''' ### '''Location and accommodation information are available at: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lyon_Hackathon_2015''' ## US Hackathon Developer Summit 2015 (invitation only) ### San Francisco, California, USA, January 26 -27 ### To register: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Developer_Summit_2015 ## SMWCon Spring 2015, TBD ## SMWCon Fall 2015, TBD # Other # Closing - Mark == Minutes == ===Attendees=== *Markus *Alexis (etherpad) *Mark *Cindy *Karsten *Natasha *Chris * Michael === MediaWiki Stakeholders Group Recognized! === *Markus shows status * Yay! Thank you all for your involvement === Release 1.24.0 === *Markus points out that this is the place to raise concerns regarding any problems * Meetings are tied to releases * What can we do better? * Any findings? Plans? * Cindy: there are plans for an update. Were several point releases behind. Commited to keep up with the point releases. * Mark: once there's an official release, early adopter stuff is taken care of * Karsten: Not updated yet. Usually uses the latest legacy. Running on 1.23.7. Users have custom skins. They want to run on LTS version. Tests on a test instance before, manually. Release scheme is a good thing. * Natasha: did upgrade. Has a list of things to do. Depends on Edlira. Is confused by Composer. Some extensions break. * https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g7MYYN6-AWRKp4AxdADUHx7jdsQe-XCl5V3fDEqfepM/edit * Chris: running wmf-branch in production. No special issues found. Needed modern builds that work with mobile frontend and such, MultiMediaViewer, visualEditor === Upcoming release: Want anything special for that release? === === Bug reports and users' experiences === * Mark watched reports about people having trouble with upgrading === Report on MW users meeting in Houston === * People seemed to like MW more than SP (SharePoint Wiki) * Presentation my NASA and WikiEm.org an * SP is pushing against MW. It would be good to come up with pros and cons * There's some experience with 2003 SP * Chris: can work on a comparison * Cindy: Strength is fine graned access control * Markus: SP is ok for small collaboration, but MW is much better for larger. === RFC process === * We take part in the RfC discussion to bring te stakeholders' view into the discussion ==== How many people use composer as a basis? ==== * Cindy: selective enabling / disabling of a feature on a wiki farm (not supported) * Karsten +1 * Composer works with homogenous wikis, but not otherwise. * Makes upgrading fast, but can be problematic if one extension isn't upgraded. if the dependency wasnt updated properly * Mark: we need a GUI ==== Extension management ==== * What are the requirements? * Come up with requirements -- Markus will be asking for feedback on mailing list. * Mark will talk to Quim and Rachel about Cindy going to SF ==== Opt-in "Registration" for update notification. ==== * There will be a special page: CheckMyVersion === State of projects === ==== Feature wishlist ==== * Google Code-in students are helping by looking over mailing list. * Alexis: currently one student has claimed the task of looking over the month of September 2014 ==== Roadmap ==== * RFCs substitute for roadmap right now. ==== Publicizing for MediaWiki ==== *Richard wrote some blog post under CC license free to use: MediaWiki - Software moving towards the future ** Part 1: Skinning, Mobile, Dialogues: http://blog.blue-spice.org/2014/12/01/mediawiki-software-moving-towards-the-future-part-1-of-3-skinning-mobile-dialogues/ ** Part 2: Visual Editor and simultaneous editing: http://blog.blue-spice.org/2014/12/02/mediawiki-software-moving-towards-the-future-part-2-of-3-visual-editor-and-simultaneous-editing-of-texts/ ** Part 3: Communication, Wikidata, Translation: http://blog.blue-spice.org/2014/12/03/mediawiki-software-moving-towards-the-future-part-3-of-3-communication-wikidata-translation/ **A German version is available on the Hallo Welt blog. === Future conferences for a track === *Wikimania 2015 *Mexico City, July 15-19 **Location and accommodation information are available at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015_bids/Mexico_City *European Hackathon 2015 **Lyon, France, May 23-25 **Location and accommodation information are available at: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lyon_Hackathon_2015 *US Hackathon Developer Summit 2015 (invitation only) **San Francisco, California, USA, January 26 -27 **To register: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Developer_Summit_2015 *SMWCon Spring 2015, TBD *SMWCon Fall 2015, TBD * We need to find ways of funding travel to these conferences * Could be a test case for our own funding * Funding raised for track could be used to support travel.

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