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User:Gtisza

2019-06-08T16:51:01Z

Gtisza: Created page with "See [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Tgr Tgr@metawiki] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Tgr_(WMF) Tgr (WMF)@mediawiki.org]."

See [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Tgr Tgr@metawiki] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Tgr_(WMF) Tgr (WMF)@mediawiki.org].

Talk:Bylaws/Dues

2019-06-08T16:49:24Z

Gtisza: /* Vote weights */ new section

: Place for discussion about the dues structure. If you are not able to edit the page, you can leave comments on the '''[[mw:Talk:MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group/Dues|MediaWiki.org talk page]]'''.

== Vote weights ==

There was an intent to give corporate supporters higher vote weights, but it was never finalized. It seems like a fairly important element of the dues structure. If it was dropped, we should remove that table row to reduce confusion. --[[User:Gtisza|Gtisza]] ([[User talk:Gtisza|talk]]) 12:49, 8 June 2019 (EDT)

Talk:Bylaws/Dues

2019-05-05T22:05:59Z

Gtisza:

:''Place for discussion about the dues structure. If you are not able to edit the page, you can leave comments at [[mw:Talk:MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group/Dues]].''

Talk:Bylaws

2019-05-05T22:05:00Z

Gtisza:

:''If you are not able to edit the page, you can leave comments at [[mw:Talk:MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group/Bylaws]].''

The [[Bylaws]] page is modified using the following:
# Making the subsections wiki headers, this allows specific sections (4.3.6, etc.)
#* This makes the TOC more complicated, but is fixed by <code><nowiki><div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki></code> and changes to [[MediaWiki:Common.css|Common.css]]
#* However, doing this also removes the visibility of section numbering, but is fixed by adding the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NumberedHeadings NumberedHeadings] extension and adding <code>__NUMBEREDHEADINGS__</code>
#* This makes the sections different font sizes, but is fixed by changes to [[MediaWiki:Common.css|Common.css]]
# Removing section edit links by using <code><nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki></code>
# Edits on February 14, 2019, by Frank Taylor
#* Inserted commas after "be advised of" in provisions 3.6.1 and 3.6.2.
#* Reversed order of terms "Special Meeting of Members" and "Annual Meeting of Members" in provision 4.6.2.2.
#* Inserted explanations in note 4, note 8, and note 14.
# Edits on February 24, 2019, by Frank Taylor
#* Changed “shall” to “will” in 3.7.2.1, 4.5.2.3.4, and 5.1.1.
#* Changed number of directors from eight to nine in 5.1.1.
#* Added note to 4.5.2.3.4.
# The fee schedule is based on the Linux Foundation (another 501c6) [https://www.linuxfoundation.org/bylaws/#schedulea Bylaws]

== Toward Consensus ==
We need consensus from board members on the Bylaws. This section is for noting that.

===Mark===
My vote: {{aye}} --☠[[mw:User:MarkAHershberger|User:MarkAHershberger]]☢([[User_talk:MarkAHershberger|talk]])☣ 14:11, 23 April 2019 (EDT)

===James===
I’m good with the bylaws, except that I think we should have measurable actions we plan to take for section 2.3. Those measurements and action specifics don’t need to be in the bylaws, and probably shouldn’t be, but perhaps should be linked from it. Examples: 2.3.1-commit X patches to MW core, Y of which close out preexisting Phabricator tasks.

2.3.2 is what we were talking about with Ext:Duplicator. We need to formalize what we plan to do with it
:Right, putting the specific things we're working on in the Bylaws wouldn't be appropriate. How about updating the bylaws to point to a specific way to track our current activities? --☠[[mw:User:MarkAHershberger|User:MarkAHershberger]]☢([[User_talk:MarkAHershberger|talk]])☣ 14:13, 23 April 2019 (EDT)

===Bryan===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Bryandamon|Bryandamon]] ([[User talk:Bryandamon|talk]]) 22:25, 23 April 2019 (EDT)

===Cindy===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Cindy Cicalese|Cindy Cicalese]] ([[User talk:Cindy Cicalese|talk]]) 11:25, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

===Sabine===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Sabine.melnicki|Sabine.melnicki]] ([[User talk:Sabine.melnicki|talk]]) 10:57, 25 April 2019 (EDT)

===Markus===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Markus Glaser|Markus Glaser]] ([[User talk:Markus Glaser|talk]]) 14:12, 26 April 2019 (EDT)

===Evita===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Ehollis.wiki|Evita Hollis]] ([[User talk:Ehollis.wiki|talk]]) 14:27, 26 April 2019 (EDT)

===Lex===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Lex_Sulzer|Lex]] ([[User talk:Lex_Sulzer|talk]]) 10:21, 27 April 2019 (CEST)

== Elaboration of how relationship with WMF works ==

I'm curious how 2.3.4 Cooperate and liaison with the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. will work. Does the WMF have an established policy or working group on their side for this cooperation? I would recommend a periodic meeting to get things started.

Also, please chime in on [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T220212#5098975 T220212], a request to discuss the relationship between the foundation and 3rd party users at Tech Con 2019. I think we need to press this matter.

--[[User:Darenwelsh|Darenwelsh]] ([[User talk:Darenwelsh|talk]]) 12:09, 3 May 2019 (EDT)

Talk:Bylaws

2019-05-05T22:04:23Z

Gtisza:

:''If you are not able to edit the page, you can leave comments at [[mw:MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group/Bylaws]].''

The [[Bylaws]] page is modified using the following:
# Making the subsections wiki headers, this allows specific sections (4.3.6, etc.)
#* This makes the TOC more complicated, but is fixed by <code><nowiki><div class="toclimit-2">__TOC__</div></nowiki></code> and changes to [[MediaWiki:Common.css|Common.css]]
#* However, doing this also removes the visibility of section numbering, but is fixed by adding the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NumberedHeadings NumberedHeadings] extension and adding <code>__NUMBEREDHEADINGS__</code>
#* This makes the sections different font sizes, but is fixed by changes to [[MediaWiki:Common.css|Common.css]]
# Removing section edit links by using <code><nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki></code>
# Edits on February 14, 2019, by Frank Taylor
#* Inserted commas after "be advised of" in provisions 3.6.1 and 3.6.2.
#* Reversed order of terms "Special Meeting of Members" and "Annual Meeting of Members" in provision 4.6.2.2.
#* Inserted explanations in note 4, note 8, and note 14.
# Edits on February 24, 2019, by Frank Taylor
#* Changed “shall” to “will” in 3.7.2.1, 4.5.2.3.4, and 5.1.1.
#* Changed number of directors from eight to nine in 5.1.1.
#* Added note to 4.5.2.3.4.
# The fee schedule is based on the Linux Foundation (another 501c6) [https://www.linuxfoundation.org/bylaws/#schedulea Bylaws]

== Toward Consensus ==
We need consensus from board members on the Bylaws. This section is for noting that.

===Mark===
My vote: {{aye}} --☠[[mw:User:MarkAHershberger|User:MarkAHershberger]]☢([[User_talk:MarkAHershberger|talk]])☣ 14:11, 23 April 2019 (EDT)

===James===
I’m good with the bylaws, except that I think we should have measurable actions we plan to take for section 2.3. Those measurements and action specifics don’t need to be in the bylaws, and probably shouldn’t be, but perhaps should be linked from it. Examples: 2.3.1-commit X patches to MW core, Y of which close out preexisting Phabricator tasks.

2.3.2 is what we were talking about with Ext:Duplicator. We need to formalize what we plan to do with it
:Right, putting the specific things we're working on in the Bylaws wouldn't be appropriate. How about updating the bylaws to point to a specific way to track our current activities? --☠[[mw:User:MarkAHershberger|User:MarkAHershberger]]☢([[User_talk:MarkAHershberger|talk]])☣ 14:13, 23 April 2019 (EDT)

===Bryan===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Bryandamon|Bryandamon]] ([[User talk:Bryandamon|talk]]) 22:25, 23 April 2019 (EDT)

===Cindy===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Cindy Cicalese|Cindy Cicalese]] ([[User talk:Cindy Cicalese|talk]]) 11:25, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

===Sabine===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Sabine.melnicki|Sabine.melnicki]] ([[User talk:Sabine.melnicki|talk]]) 10:57, 25 April 2019 (EDT)

===Markus===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Markus Glaser|Markus Glaser]] ([[User talk:Markus Glaser|talk]]) 14:12, 26 April 2019 (EDT)

===Evita===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Ehollis.wiki|Evita Hollis]] ([[User talk:Ehollis.wiki|talk]]) 14:27, 26 April 2019 (EDT)

===Lex===
: My vote: {{aye}} --[[User:Lex_Sulzer|Lex]] ([[User talk:Lex_Sulzer|talk]]) 10:21, 27 April 2019 (CEST)

== Elaboration of how relationship with WMF works ==

I'm curious how 2.3.4 Cooperate and liaison with the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. will work. Does the WMF have an established policy or working group on their side for this cooperation? I would recommend a periodic meeting to get things started.

Also, please chime in on [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T220212#5098975 T220212], a request to discuss the relationship between the foundation and 3rd party users at Tech Con 2019. I think we need to press this matter.

--[[User:Darenwelsh|Darenwelsh]] ([[User talk:Darenwelsh|talk]]) 12:09, 3 May 2019 (EDT)