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Etherpad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2017-02


Video chat: https://bluejeans.com/683921370
= Meeting Notes =
 
== Attendees  ==
Thomas O'Neill
Justin Green
Lex Sulzer
Mark A. Hershberger
Chris Koerner
Markus Glaser
Cindy Cicalese
Peter Meyer
 
== News and Updates ==
* Technical Collaboration's (WMF) role in supproritng third-party users
** Known contact points: Quim (via Chris) is the liaison for us
** CTO reportedly supports MediaWiki as a product
* New MediaWiki core team!?
** Dedicated people (Engineers, Product managers)
** ROADMAP!!!! (tbd)
** Very encouraging to hear support for MW as a product.
* Will probably have WMF engineer(s) at the EMWCon
* Cloud Team
** https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-February/086343.html
** WMFLabs & Tools
** "Wikimedia cloud services"
** Brian Davis
** Historical interest in 3rd party
** Dockerize MW?
* Some feedback I've heard from WMF folks on leadership in MWStake
** Criticism: MWStake started out really strong, but people are a bit unimpressed
** Waiting for getting something more concrete accomplished
** There are visibility issues with mwstake, we do things but we are not branding it as mwstake
 
== Cons ==
 
=== EMWCon ===
 
    https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/EMWCon_Spring_2017
 
* Is #mwstake willing to host (i.e. lend its name to, no money involved) an edit-a-thon the first evening of EMWCon in conjunction with WikiDC -
** yes
** Evening of first day 5:30-9:30
** offsite from EMWCon venue
** probably government transition oriented
** (e.g. fixing broken links in Wikipedia to White House web pages)?
** yes.  first evening (Weds) editathon focused on gov links notably to whitehouse.gov if those links are still broken
** I expect to get support from WikiDC for food for this first evening.
** Co-sponsoring with some org, e.g. MWstake, is important to making that happen
 
* Social event second evening
 
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Open_Semantic_Data_Association - they support SMWCon, but my understanding from Yaron is that they are not involved in EMWCon
 
* ACTION: all promote Call for Participation for EMWCon
* ACTION: Mark talk to Lex about create camp
 
=== Vienna Hackathon ===
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017
* 6 hour track on Friday (May 19-21), i.e. 8 slots, 45 minutes each (possibly)
** Works for branding MWStake
* Working title: "The potential of MediaWiki" -> find something better
* Draft programme should be ready by next Wednesday
* Topic suggestions?
** Use case +!
** Tutorial?
** Panel discussion
* ACTION: Markus etherpad with draft schedule
* Possibly attending: Lex, Chris, Mark, Markus, Cindy, Peter
 
    https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017/Register_and_Attend#Scholarships
 
 
== Incorporation ==
* Status and next steps
* Fundraising
** Need a clearly defined outcome
**hosting of MWStake and Wikiapiary!?
***<shamless plug>Wikimedia Cloud Services</shameless plug>
* https://lwn.net/Articles/713073/ -- FOSS Umbrella orgs in the EU
** Alternative structures, non US incorporation
** Just go B-Corp?  "public benefit corporation"
* Plan was:  US 501(c)(6), a professional organisation
* Need to align with WMF
* Apply for Grants
* Wikimedia DC could do a "fiscal sponsorship"
** Possibly that even could include paid staff.
* ACTION: Mark & Peter hash this out
 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Wishlist

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Meeting Notes

Attendees

Thomas O'Neill Justin Green Lex Sulzer Mark A. Hershberger Chris Koerner Markus Glaser Cindy Cicalese Peter Meyer

News and Updates

  • Technical Collaboration's (WMF) role in supproritng third-party users
    • Known contact points: Quim (via Chris) is the liaison for us
    • CTO reportedly supports MediaWiki as a product
  • New MediaWiki core team!?
    • Dedicated people (Engineers, Product managers)
    • ROADMAP!!!! (tbd)
    • Very encouraging to hear support for MW as a product.
  • Will probably have WMF engineer(s) at the EMWCon
  • Cloud Team
  • Some feedback I've heard from WMF folks on leadership in MWStake
    • Criticism: MWStake started out really strong, but people are a bit unimpressed
    • Waiting for getting something more concrete accomplished
    • There are visibility issues with mwstake, we do things but we are not branding it as mwstake

Cons

EMWCon

   https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/EMWCon_Spring_2017
  • Is #mwstake willing to host (i.e. lend its name to, no money involved) an edit-a-thon the first evening of EMWCon in conjunction with WikiDC -
    • yes
    • Evening of first day 5:30-9:30
    • offsite from EMWCon venue
    • probably government transition oriented
    • (e.g. fixing broken links in Wikipedia to White House web pages)?
    • yes. first evening (Weds) editathon focused on gov links notably to whitehouse.gov if those links are still broken
    • I expect to get support from WikiDC for food for this first evening.
    • Co-sponsoring with some org, e.g. MWstake, is important to making that happen
  • Social event second evening

https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Open_Semantic_Data_Association - they support SMWCon, but my understanding from Yaron is that they are not involved in EMWCon

  • ACTION: all promote Call for Participation for EMWCon
  • ACTION: Mark talk to Lex about create camp

Vienna Hackathon

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017

  • 6 hour track on Friday (May 19-21), i.e. 8 slots, 45 minutes each (possibly)
    • Works for branding MWStake
  • Working title: "The potential of MediaWiki" -> find something better
  • Draft programme should be ready by next Wednesday
  • Topic suggestions?
    • Use case +!
    • Tutorial?
    • Panel discussion
  • ACTION: Markus etherpad with draft schedule
  • Possibly attending: Lex, Chris, Mark, Markus, Cindy, Peter
   https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017/Register_and_Attend#Scholarships


Incorporation

  • Status and next steps
  • Fundraising
    • Need a clearly defined outcome
    • hosting of MWStake and Wikiapiary!?
      • <shamless plug>Wikimedia Cloud Services</shameless plug>
  • https://lwn.net/Articles/713073/ -- FOSS Umbrella orgs in the EU
    • Alternative structures, non US incorporation
    • Just go B-Corp? "public benefit corporation"
  • Plan was: US 501(c)(6), a professional organisation
  • Need to align with WMF
  • Apply for Grants
  • Wikimedia DC could do a "fiscal sponsorship"
    • Possibly that even could include paid staff.
  • ACTION: Mark & Peter hash this out

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Wishlist