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#* Wikidata was a big topic during the conference with several topics devoted to it | #* Wikidata was a big topic during the conference with several topics devoted to it | ||
#* The [https://hopin.com/ hop.in] platform was very nice and added a lot of "conference like" features | #* The [https://hopin.com/ hop.in] platform was very nice and added a lot of "conference like" features | ||
# '''Community Wishlist Survey 2021''' | # '''Community Wishlist Survey 2021''' {{Agenda presenter|Bryan}} | ||
#* [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021 link to survey] | #* [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021 link to survey] | ||
# '''WMF Stable Interface Policy''' | # '''WMF Stable Interface Policy''' | ||
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#* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268328 | #* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268328 | ||
#* https://github.com/MWStake/nonwmf-extensions | #* https://github.com/MWStake/nonwmf-extensions | ||
# '''Creating reusable MediaWiki products''' | # '''Creating reusable MediaWiki products''' {{Agenda presenter|Yaron}} | ||
# '''How to become a member''' | #* Yaron runs [https://wikiworks.com/ WikiWorks] a MW consulting company | ||
# '''WikiConference North America (WCNA) | #* The goal of the reusable products is to increase MW usage | ||
#* Envisioned to be a Docker container that has MW + Extension (including [[MW:Extension:Page Exchange|Page Exchange]]) | |||
#* "Products" could be made up of packages of MW, extensions, and data structures.Β It could be useful to anyone starting up, consultants, and be FOSS or include proprietary elements | |||
#* {{Agenda presenter|Rich Evans}} I'm happy to donate Template/Forms/Properties | |||
#* {{Agenda presenter|Marcus}} I'm happy to contribute | |||
#* A package manager could help | |||
# '''How to become a member''' {{Agenda presenter|Mark}} | |||
#* Brief mention that the "Become a member" feature is now live on the MWStake website | |||
# '''WikiConference North America (WCNA) {{Agenda presenter|Peter Meyer}} | |||
#* December 11th-13th | |||
#* If someone from MWStake could provide a write-up of what MWStake is all about, Peter will share | |||
#** Peter to contact Markus for write-up | |||
# '''Chat service recommendation''' | # '''Chat service recommendation''' | ||
#* From [www.volteurope.org Volt] (a new political movement) | |||
#* Looking for a Workplace alternative. I was curious about what the Wikimedia movement is using. I asked some questions and somebody referred me to the MediaWiki Stakeholders. I think Elements is very interesting. I was also curious if the Wikimedia community is also integrating something like Trello? I learned that the community uses Phabricator. We are looking for a very user friendly open source platform. | |||
#* There's a bunch of information about Matrix on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186061 | |||
#* There's also https://chat.wmcloud.org/ which is Mattermost | |||
#* The Wikimedia Foundation uses Slack internally | |||
#* Zulip is used for some engineering outreach, and Telegram is used mainly by Wikimedia user groups / chapters. | |||
#* Obviously there are IRC channels all around the place | |||
#* The Wikimedia movement hasn't really converged to a single chat solution yet | |||
#* The main differentiating factors for Matrix are federation and end-to-end encrypted group chats so it might depend on your situation how useful it is to you | |||
# '''Upgrading MW from 1.31 to 1.35''' | |||
#* It appears that Mediawiki 1.31.10 created an additional "slots" table. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212428. | |||
#* So we must create the new table manually before running the upgrade script. <code> php maintenance/populateContentTables.php</code> | |||
#* Strange that 1.31.10 created additional tables. I would think creating new tables (altering database) should only be done by a major version? | |||
#* See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212428 | |||
#* The general consensus is the the update scripts should catch this and create the necessary tables | |||
==Action board== | ==Action board== | ||
Revision as of 20:57, 5 December 2020
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4 December 2020 16:30:00 - 4 December 2020 17:30:00 |
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https://meet.google.com/mdd-ufhn-ksb |
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https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2020-12
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 Attendees:
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Alex Tanchoco, Bernhard Krabina, Bob Watts, Bryan Hildebrand, Caleb Cooper, Cindy Cicalese, Geert Van Pamel, GergΕ Tisza, Igor Absorto, Ike Hecht, Jeroen De Dauw, Lex Sulzer, Lexi McGillivray, Mark Hershberger, Markus Glaser, Michael Barylak, Nick Parrott, Patrick Marvin, Peter Meyer, Peter Woudsma, Rich Evans, Tim Ruijters, Vincent Brooks, Yaron Koren |
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Meeting agenda
- Wait for attendees & chat 5 min
- MediaWiki News 5 min Mark
- SMWCon 20 min TBD
- The Semantic MediaWiki Conference this year was a huge success
- Some discussions about what worked well and any issues that came up
- YouTube Playlist
- Community Wishlist Survey 2021 5 min Bryan
- The submission phase is now closed (30NOV) with 288 proposals
- The voting phase is coming up (08DEC β 21DEC)
- Any feedback is welcome, some things I found interesting that might be relevant to MWStake:
- Copy and paste from diffs (Editing)
- Bring back PDF book rendering (Misc.)
- Support 360 photo viewing (Multimedia & Commons)
- Section on Wikidata
- WMF Stable Interface Policy 10 min Cindy
- Creating reusable MediaWiki products 15 min Yaron
- Developing community driven MediaWiki products (ISO, CRM, BPM, etc.) that can be shared via Page Exchange/Docker
- How to become a member 5 min Mark
- Information about how to become an MWStake member
- Wiki Watercooler remaining Open Mic
Notes
- MediaWiki News Gergo
- Proposal to make shelling out from MediaWiki containerizable: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260330
- Firefox required version upped to 3.6: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262946
- A bunch more requirement changes are being discussed: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T266866
- RfC for a more formalized way to provide config snippets, mainly for testing: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T267928
- Old RfCs still being discussed: extension Composer compatibility, DB upgrade support for old versions
- Wikimedia Movement Strategy Global Conversations: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Transition/Global_Conversations
- Dell (Caleb Cooper) discussed their use of Docker (related to T260330)
- SMWCon Cindy
- SMWCon Page
- Many thanks to Bernhard Krabina, Richard Heigl, and others that put it together, it was a great success
- Some statistics:
- 234 - Registered
- 92 - Max concurrent at event
- 74 - Max concurrent during an individual session
- Not all the talks are out yet, but here is the YouTube playlist
- Wikidata was a big topic during the conference with several topics devoted to it
- The hop.in platform was very nice and added a lot of "conference like" features
- Community Wishlist Survey 2021 Bryan
- WMF Stable Interface Policy
- Creating reusable MediaWiki products Yaron
- Yaron runs WikiWorks a MW consulting company
- The goal of the reusable products is to increase MW usage
- Envisioned to be a Docker container that has MW + Extension (including Page Exchange)
- "Products" could be made up of packages of MW, extensions, and data structures. It could be useful to anyone starting up, consultants, and be FOSS or include proprietary elements
- Rich Evans I'm happy to donate Template/Forms/Properties
- Marcus I'm happy to contribute
- A package manager could help
- How to become a member Mark
- Brief mention that the "Become a member" feature is now live on the MWStake website
- WikiConference North America (WCNA) Peter Meyer
- December 11th-13th
- If someone from MWStake could provide a write-up of what MWStake is all about, Peter will share
- Peter to contact Markus for write-up
- Chat service recommendation
- From [www.volteurope.org Volt] (a new political movement)
- Looking for a Workplace alternative. I was curious about what the Wikimedia movement is using. I asked some questions and somebody referred me to the MediaWiki Stakeholders. I think Elements is very interesting. I was also curious if the Wikimedia community is also integrating something like Trello? I learned that the community uses Phabricator. We are looking for a very user friendly open source platform.
- There's a bunch of information about Matrix on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186061
- There's also https://chat.wmcloud.org/ which is Mattermost
- The Wikimedia Foundation uses Slack internally
- Zulip is used for some engineering outreach, and Telegram is used mainly by Wikimedia user groups / chapters.
- Obviously there are IRC channels all around the place
- The Wikimedia movement hasn't really converged to a single chat solution yet
- The main differentiating factors for Matrix are federation and end-to-end encrypted group chats so it might depend on your situation how useful it is to you
- Upgrading MW from 1.31 to 1.35
- It appears that Mediawiki 1.31.10 created an additional "slots" table. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212428.
- So we must create the new table manually before running the upgrade script.
php maintenance/populateContentTables.php - Strange that 1.31.10 created additional tables. I would think creating new tables (altering database) should only be done by a major version?
- See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212428
- The general consensus is the the update scripts should catch this and create the necessary tables
Action board
See this page for more information
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