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==Meeting agenda== | ==Meeting agenda== | ||
# '''Wait for attendees & chat''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} | # '''Wait for attendees & chat''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} | ||
− | # '''Wiki Quickie''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} {{Agenda presenter| | + | # <del>'''Wiki Quickie''' {{Agenda time|5 min}} {{Agenda presenter|TBD}}</del> |
− | #* | + | # '''MediaWiki Blog Released''' {{Agenda time|15 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Richard H}} |
+ | #* https://mediawiki.blog | ||
+ | #* Needs input: Authors, Corrections, Suggestions, etc. | ||
+ | # '''This month in MediaWiki''' {{Agenda time|15 min}} {{Agenda presenter|Mark A. Hershberger}} | ||
# '''Agenda Item''' {{Agenda time|XX min}} {{Agenda presenter|TBD}} | # '''Agenda Item''' {{Agenda time|XX min}} {{Agenda presenter|TBD}} | ||
# '''Wiki Watercooler''' {{Agenda time|remaining}} {{Agenda presenter|Open Mic}} | # '''Wiki Watercooler''' {{Agenda time|remaining}} {{Agenda presenter|Open Mic}} | ||
==Notes== | ==Notes== | ||
− | + | # '''What's new in MediaWiki''' (Cindy) discussed what's coming in MediaWiki based off the [https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2020-07 notes] prepared by Gergo (and reposted to mw.org [https://mwstake.org/mwstake/wiki/Blog_Post:54 here]) | |
− | + | #* 1.35 (out in a few weeks) will be the last release to support Internet Explorer (T248061) | |
+ | #* Uncached VisualEditor w/ Parsoid/PHP (no JS, no RESTBase) for MW 1.35 LTS (T248343) | ||
+ | #* SkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec and a number of other hooks are being deprecated (T60137). | ||
+ | #** See https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-June/093556.html | ||
+ | #** See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jdlrobson/Skins_for_extension_developers | ||
+ | #* Extensions can now provide alternative database backends (instead of the core MySQL, Postgres etc): https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226857 | ||
+ | #* Gerrit updated to version 3. You can now create and edit patches via the web interface. | ||
+ | #** But apparently it will be replaced by GitLab next year: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Release_Engineering_Team/GitLab | ||
+ | #** GitLab is like a github, hosted elsewhere, e.g. WMF. It probably necessitates a switch from Jenkins to Argo. | ||
+ | #* (Peter) Is it extraordinarily difficult to support IE? I'm surprised. In the fed govt many of us are supposed to use IE for some things and Edge has been unusable I'm told | ||
+ | # '''MediaWiki Logo change proposal''' | ||
+ | #* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020 | ||
+ | # '''Wikimedia re-branding''' | ||
+ | #* Survey and open letter from community | ||
+ | #** https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD | ||
+ | #** https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming | ||
+ | #* Law of Triviality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality | ||
+ | #* (Peter) I reviewed it and asked to hold until more information was captured | ||
+ | # '''Abstract Wikipedia''' | ||
+ | #* Approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustee and Denny Vrandečić is joining the Foundation | ||
+ | #* It looks like this will be a place to put Wikipedia pages that automatically translate into many languages. The pages will have some kind of sentences that refer to Wikidata items. | ||
+ | #* (Mark) It may be too ambitious | ||
+ | #** https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/July_2020_announcement (Announcement) | ||
+ | #** https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilambda (Info) | ||
+ | #** https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.04733 (White Paper) | ||
+ | #** https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23714875 (Hacker News with some commentary) | ||
+ | # '''Page Exchange''' | ||
+ | #* (Ike) Explained the extension use and development | ||
+ | #* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Page_Exchange | ||
+ | #* (Cindy) Does PageExchange resolve https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177496? | ||
+ | # '''MediaWiki blog''' | ||
+ | #* (Richard) MediaWiki blog will be at https://mediawiki.blog (password protected) | ||
+ | #* (Richard) The blog is ready to go but needs some help and final decision over the domain (mediawiki.blog) | ||
+ | #* (Richard) Areas help is requested: | ||
+ | #** Articles | ||
+ | #** Expand "What's New" | ||
+ | #** "About us", for example a page on MWStake | ||
+ | #** Privacy law acceptable? It's written based on GDPR | ||
+ | #*** (Bryan) If it's based on GDPR, it's likely ok for the rest of the world | ||
+ | #* Should Board Members have their affiliation listed? (i.e. Board member X works for company Y) | ||
+ | #* Will need articles - focused on mediawiki development? not enterprise wikis it seems | ||
==Action board== | ==Action board== | ||
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Latest revision as of 20:58, 11 July 2020
Date (UTC): | 3 July 2020 15:30:00 - 3 July 2020 16:30:00 |
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URL: | https://meet.google.com/mdd-ufhn-ksb |
Etherpad: | https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/mwstake-2020-07
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Attendees: | Bryan Hildebrand, Cindy Cicalese, Evita Hollis, Ike Hecht, Mark Hershberger, Markus Glaser, Peter Meyer, Richard Heigl |
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Meeting agenda[edit]
- Wait for attendees & chat 5 min
Wiki Quickie 5 min TBD- MediaWiki Blog Released 15 min Richard H
- https://mediawiki.blog
- Needs input: Authors, Corrections, Suggestions, etc.
- This month in MediaWiki 15 min Mark A. Hershberger
- Agenda Item XX min TBD
- Wiki Watercooler remaining Open Mic
Notes[edit]
- What's new in MediaWiki (Cindy) discussed what's coming in MediaWiki based off the notes prepared by Gergo (and reposted to mw.org here)
- 1.35 (out in a few weeks) will be the last release to support Internet Explorer (T248061)
- Uncached VisualEditor w/ Parsoid/PHP (no JS, no RESTBase) for MW 1.35 LTS (T248343)
- SkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec and a number of other hooks are being deprecated (T60137).
- Extensions can now provide alternative database backends (instead of the core MySQL, Postgres etc): https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226857
- Gerrit updated to version 3. You can now create and edit patches via the web interface.
- But apparently it will be replaced by GitLab next year: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Release_Engineering_Team/GitLab
- GitLab is like a github, hosted elsewhere, e.g. WMF. It probably necessitates a switch from Jenkins to Argo.
- (Peter) Is it extraordinarily difficult to support IE? I'm surprised. In the fed govt many of us are supposed to use IE for some things and Edge has been unusable I'm told
- MediaWiki Logo change proposal
- Wikimedia re-branding
- Survey and open letter from community
- Law of Triviality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality
- (Peter) I reviewed it and asked to hold until more information was captured
- Abstract Wikipedia
- Approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustee and Denny Vrandečić is joining the Foundation
- It looks like this will be a place to put Wikipedia pages that automatically translate into many languages. The pages will have some kind of sentences that refer to Wikidata items.
- (Mark) It may be too ambitious
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/July_2020_announcement (Announcement)
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilambda (Info)
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.04733 (White Paper)
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23714875 (Hacker News with some commentary)
- Page Exchange
- (Ike) Explained the extension use and development
- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Page_Exchange
- (Cindy) Does PageExchange resolve https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177496?
- MediaWiki blog
- (Richard) MediaWiki blog will be at https://mediawiki.blog (password protected)
- (Richard) The blog is ready to go but needs some help and final decision over the domain (mediawiki.blog)
- (Richard) Areas help is requested:
- Articles
- Expand "What's New"
- "About us", for example a page on MWStake
- Privacy law acceptable? It's written based on GDPR
- (Bryan) If it's based on GDPR, it's likely ok for the rest of the world
- Should Board Members have their affiliation listed? (i.e. Board member X works for company Y)
- Will need articles - focused on mediawiki development? not enterprise wikis it seems
Action board[edit]
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